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  • Leonard would dominate Mayweather! Floyd has nothing to keep Leonard off him, he's a tiny welter without power. Leonard is faster and stronger and a true welter. Floyd at his best would be at 140lbs.

    Floyd -5'7" 147

    Ray---5'10" 147

    ................in a 15 round bout Floyd gets stopped. Ray.

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    • The problem with boxing Fans is the yesteryear syndrome, jus coz a fighter fought in the past he automatically beats morden fighter I don't believe that, Floyd's boxing IQ is out of this world this guy is like a boxing encyclopedia,all those flurries or combos wouldn't work with Floyd he will tie u up so fast or get outta there,when was the last time u saw a fighter string up combinations on Floyd successfully?
      Nobody and I repeat nobody knows how to drop a fighter's work rate like Floyd. SRL may have been faster & more powerful than Floyd but Floyd is quicker and his timing is superior, forget about ring IQ I don't care wat generation u from nobody outboxes Floyd over 12rds nobody that mfcker will figure u out sooner or later,I guarantee u this if ever that fight happened, it would be fought on Floyd's terms, as weird as it sounds, SRL is the guy Floyd would have a lopsided W amongst the fab 4 (SRL, Hagler, Hearns & Duran). Both great fighters though!

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      • Originally posted by Ray Corso View Post
        Leonard would dominate Mayweather! Floyd has nothing to keep Leonard off him, he's a tiny welter without power. Leonard is faster and stronger and a true welter. Floyd at his best would be at 140lbs.

        Floyd -5'7" 147

        Ray---5'10" 147

        ................in a 15 round bout Floyd gets stopped. Ray.
        I agree. hearns would have also ate floyd up

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        • hell no. it's amazing how many idiots believe u when u self proclaim urself the best. most overrated fighter of this era would not even come close to beating srl.

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          • Originally posted by Brother Khalid View Post
            I really don't like your disrespect of Duran in that last post (calling his a quitter and a disgrace to boxing is hands down one of the worst comments I have seen on this site).

            With that said, SRL did cherry pick a lot of his fights and dodge fighters as well. People bash Floyd for something Leonard was notorious for.
            Leonard fought prime Duran twice.
            Fought prime Hearns.
            Fought prime Benitez.

            How many prime ATGs has Mayweather fought? One, Marquez.

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            • Originally posted by luckykb8 View Post
              The problem with boxing Fans is the yesteryear syndrome, jus coz a fighter fought in the past he automatically beats morden fighter I don't believe that, Floyd's boxing IQ is out of this world this guy is like a boxing encyclopedia,all those flurries or combos wouldn't work with Floyd he will tie u up so fast or get outta there,when was the last time u saw a fighter string up combinations on Floyd successfully?
              Nobody and I repeat nobody knows how to drop a fighter's work rate like Floyd. SRL may have been faster & more powerful than Floyd but Floyd is quicker and his timing is superior, forget about ring IQ I don't care wat generation u from nobody outboxes Floyd over 12rds nobody that mfcker will figure u out sooner or later,I guarantee u this if ever that fight happened, it would be fought on Floyd's terms, as weird as it sounds, SRL is the guy Floyd would have a lopsided W amongst the fab 4 (SRL, Hagler, Hearns & Duran). Both great fighters though!
              Leonard was just as smart as Floyd, but also proved it against some true ATG's.
              Leonard would go through all of Floyds opponents at WW with ease, but remember, SRL was bigger, fought real Middleweights, and at WW was prime.

              Maybe p4p is a slightly different story, but Leonard would be smart enough to use his jab, speed, movement, and if he was outboxed by Floyd , do what he did to Hearns and make it a brawl. Something we havent seen any Floyd opponent manage to do.

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              • Originally posted by Luilun View Post
                Trust me Murka Boy if Leonard used HGH as Floyd does he would still been competitive at 36
                I think its possible that Floyd could have juiced or is juicing. The thing is, its famously documented that SRL didnt dedicate himself nor did he like training. Its also famously documented that Floyd is the POLAR OPPOSITE of SRL. As far as dedication, skills, ability etc. SRL isnt Mayweather thats why he didnt train. Just a lazy guy who wanted it all to come easy.

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                • Haymon would advise against taking this fight

                  I think Floyd has the skills to beat any ATG 147 fighter

                  dude is a special talent, once in a generation talent

                  guys like him don't fold when the pressure is on, its just that since Floyd has dominated every opponent he's faced (except Castillo), that people use that as an excuse to discredit Floyd's resume

                  "Who has Floyd been in a war with?! Exactly! He's a cherry picker!"

                  It can't possibly be that his skills are just off the charts...

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                  • Originally posted by SBleeder View Post
                    Leonard fought prime Duran twice.
                    Fought prime Hearns.
                    Fought prime Benitez.

                    How many prime ATGs has Mayweather fought? One, Marquez.
                    Marquez wasn't prime he was 34 and jumping up 2 weight classes only to be cheated at the scales

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                    • Originally posted by luckykb8 View Post
                      The problem with boxing Fans is the yesteryear syndrome, jus coz a fighter fought in the past he automatically beats morden fighter I don't believe that, Floyd's boxing IQ is out of this world this guy is like a boxing encyclopedia,all those flurries or combos wouldn't work with Floyd he will tie u up so fast or get outta there,when was the last time u saw a fighter string up combinations on Floyd successfully?
                      Nobody and I repeat nobody knows how to drop a fighter's work rate like Floyd. SRL may have been faster & more powerful than Floyd but Floyd is quicker and his timing is superior, forget about ring IQ I don't care wat generation u from nobody outboxes Floyd over 12rds nobody that mfcker will figure u out sooner or later,I guarantee u this if ever that fight happened, it would be fought on Floyd's terms, as weird as it sounds, SRL is the guy Floyd would have a lopsided W amongst the fab 4 (SRL, Hagler, Hearns & Duran). Both great fighters though!

                      Dude, the problem with boxing fans is that they are ******ed and post stuff like this,,,,,,,,,,

                      You obviously have no idea what you are talking about, and have only been watching boxing since floyd fought oscar,,,,,

                      You say floyd will figure anyone out and drop the workrate,, yeah against wanna be never has-beens and old past prime fighters,,, The dude has never faced another great in their prime even though he has had chances,,,

                      To say floyd wins a lopsided decision over SRL, just shows how completely ******ed you are, and have no idea about boxing,,,,, you have no idea who benitez or ayuble are,,,,

                      Floyd looks great vs guerrero and canelo,, be deal,,, canelo is a poor mans version of fernado vargas, and ghost is a b-level fighter who has not one big win, neither did ortiz,,,, beating a hype job like berto does not make you a good fighter,, berto has not one single good name win, yet you think its great to have a win over him.......

                      I like floyd, think he is the best of this era, and an ATG,,, but he is nothing compared to SRL....

                      SRL fought everyone, and didnt need any excuses, the dude fought benetiz, duran twice, aybule, and hearns in less that 24 months,,, different promoters and all sorts of politics, but SRL was the money man, and when your the main money guy you can make any fight you want to, just like Ali did, SRL did, Tyson did, Oscar did,, and now its floyd,, and instead of taking the big fights, he in retirement only to comeback to defeat the great ortiz, canelo, and ghost,,, no manny or margs, or cotto or shane when it mattered,,, but beating guys who's career best wins are berto,,,,, enough said,,,

                      You can be in make believe land all you want and think floyd is unstoppable, but in reality, floyd has never stepped up once he moved past 135, let alone fight a schedule like SRL, or oscar,, the last 2 big money welters,,,,,

                      YOU DONT KNOW **** ABOUT BOXING,,,,,,,,,,,,,

                      SRL had benitez, duran twice, hearns, aybule, in 24 months roughly

                      Oscar had undefeated ike, oba, undefeated tito, undefeated shane all in 18 months,,,,,,

                      Both fought guys with different promoters and had the same politics as there is today,,,, but they were the money guys so they could make any fight they wanted to...

                      now floyd is the money guy, is his own boss, yet cant land any big meaningful fights,

                      EVEN THOUGH WHAT EVERYONE FORGETS IS THAT IN 07,08,09 GBP AND TR WORKED TOGETHER AND MADE ALOT OF FIGHTS,, THAT IS HOW WE GOT JMM-MANNY 2, OSCAR-MANNY, SHANE-COTTO, MANNY-HATTON, ETC AND WHERE WAS FLOYD AT WHEN ALL FIGHTS WERE POSSIBLE AND BOTH GBP AND TR WERE WITH HBO AND DOING BUSINESS TOGETHER,,, FLOYD WAS HAVING A FAKE RETIREMENT

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