Andre Ward:I have a new arsenal. I have a lot of power in both hands!+Drug Testing

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  • -PBP-
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    #111
    Originally posted by DoktorSleepless
    Again, if you care about cleaning up the sport like Ward claims, it should not matter if it's offered before or after. And it was offered, not demanded. Only demands are required on contracts.

    In fact, surprising Ward with the testing offer would actually be the most effective way to do it. If it was during negotiations, Ward would be given the head ups to clean himself up.

    And who doesn't love surprise gifts?
    Yes it does matter. Its a ****in fight. After the contract is signed they shouldn't be talking to each other.

    "Dear Andre, let's hold hands and piss in cups together and do something positive. I know I didn't bring it up earlier but I hope you understand. Love, your friend Edwin"

    No **** that. Once the contract is signed there is no turning back. They should be focused on nothing but kicking each others asses at this point.

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    • Russian Crushin
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      #112
      Originally posted by PBP
      Yes it does matter. Its a ****in fight. After the contract is signed they shouldn't be talking to each other.

      "Dear Andre, let's hold hands and piss in cups together and do something positive. I know I didn't bring it up earlier but I hope you understand. Love, your friend Edwin"

      No **** that. Once the contract is signed there is no turning back. They should be focused on nothing but kicking each others asses at this point.
      This has nothing to do with contracts, Ward is simply in a position to prove himself clean for free

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        #113
        Originally posted by Russian Crushin
        This has nothing to do with contracts, Ward is simply in a position to prove himself clean for free
        It has everything to do with contracts. There is su****ion to begin with because of his refusal in this particular fight. He refused in this particular fight because it wasn't in the contract. You weren't discussing this issue in the lead up to the Dawson fight.

        His reasons for not voluntarily participating or putting it in the contract in the first place are his business and speak nothing on whether he is clean or dirty.
        Lamont Peterson requested it and he turned out dirty. So just because you request it clearly doesn't make you a clean fighter. And Marquez denied it for the Bradley fight but passed the enhanced NSAC testing. So just because you decline it doesn't mean your a dirty fighter.

        And Ward will prove himself clean in his next fight when he does it on his terms where its specified in the contract.
        Last edited by -PBP-; 10-30-2013, 06:10 PM.

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        • DoktorSleepless
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          #114
          Speaking of contracts and testing, every participant in the Super Six in fact contractually agreed to use World Anti-Doping Agency mandated drug testing for each bout. Guess what? Not a single Ward fight had it despite the contract.

          So Ward refuses to to testing with or without contracts.
          Last edited by DoktorSleepless; 10-30-2013, 08:38 PM.

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          • King_
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            #115
            Originally posted by pigsfly
            i do realize that some people are just angry because they don't like a certain style of fighters or a certain nationality.

            with the mexican fight fans i can understand a little bit because there has been a little bit of a rivalry. i remember fights like chavez sr. vs sweet p. american fighters have dominated the sport & mexican fight fans have a great love for boxing (and their boxers) they would love for their country to be number one (past and present) but for the fans that have taken it to a racist level all there is to say is grow the hell up & don't be such a sore loser. it's embarrassing to see grown men bicker & cry on internet forums.



            now with eastern europe..............this is something that i don't understand at all. (& will NEVER understand it) for me i can't name one ATG from eastern europe (excluding drago) wlad is the closest (& thats pretty bad)

            i mean lets be honest with ourselves. not even worth addressing.........
            What's this have to do with anything? You racist prick.



            For the record: Eastern Europeans haven't been able to compete in the pros since the 1990's......... Deal with it

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            • joesaiditstrue
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              #116
              Originally posted by thuggery
              Bold the part about where it talks about him refusing PED tests on three separate occasions, I want to laugh
              smh

              ward is obviously on that **** now, upsetting as he was one of my fav fighters

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              • Bushidō
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                #117
                Originally posted by DoubleMM
                lol ths guys a choke, he never gave a reason to reject testing and is beating behind the bush
                is there any fighter you like or you just come here to bash everyone of them

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                • joesaiditstrue
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by PBP
                  Yes it does matter. Its a ****in fight. After the contract is signed they shouldn't be talking to each other.

                  "Dear Andre, let's hold hands and piss in cups together and do something positive. I know I didn't bring it up earlier but I hope you understand. Love, your friend Edwin"

                  No **** that. Once the contract is signed there is no turning back. They should be focused on nothing but kicking each others asses at this point.

                  wow you're thick headed as f***

                  he said, IF YOU CARE ABOUT CLEANING UP THE SPORT

                  thus you have to ask yourself, if that's important to you or it isn't

                  arguing "NO WAI DOOD CONTRACT IS SIGNED LOLOL" is totally full of bias and shows you don't actually give a SH** about testing, you only use it when it suits your agenda of defending a fighter ala Tim Bradley doing external WADA testing for the Marquez fight even though Marquez didn't, it was for Tim's own personal credibility

                  Ward should do the SAME

                  you remind me of that dude on YouTube Jdil

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                    #119
                    Originally posted by joesaiditstrue
                    wow you're thick headed as f***

                    he said, IF YOU CARE ABOUT CLEANING UP THE SPORT

                    thus you have to ask yourself, if that's important to you or it isn't

                    arguing "NO WAI DOOD CONTRACT IS SIGNED LOLOL" is totally full of bias and shows you don't actually give a SH** about testing, you only use it when it suits your agenda of defending a fighter ala Tim Bradley doing external WADA testing for the Marquez fight even though Marquez didn't, it was for Tim's own personal credibility

                    Ward should do the SAME

                    you remind me of that dude on YouTube Jdil
                    Why did you bring up Bradley because he's..... lol

                    You dudes are so predictable.

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                    • radioraheem
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by PBP
                      It has everything to do with contracts. There is su****ion to begin with because of his refusal in this particular fight. He refused in this particular fight because it wasn't in the contract. You weren't discussing this issue in the lead up to the Dawson fight.

                      His reasons for not voluntarily participating or putting it in the contract in the first place are his business and speak nothing on whether he is clean or dirty.
                      Lamont Peterson requested it and he turned out dirty. So just because you request it clearly doesn't make you a clean fighter. And Marquez denied it for the Bradley fight but passed the enhanced NSAC testing. So just because you decline it doesn't mean your a dirty fighter.

                      And Ward will prove himself clean in his next fight when he does it on his terms where its specified in the contract.

                      I don't know about that. According to Rodriguez, Ward knew about the VADA testing during fight negotiations. Said both Virgil Hunter and Ward knew. He speaks on it below courtesy Boxing Socialist.

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