Andre Ward:I have a new arsenal. I have a lot of power in both hands!+Drug Testing

[-PBP-]

Case for what, for proving the he's clean? Someone has to force him to do it? This is laughable. He has said for years that he is an advocate of extra testing, years! A real "advocate" would sign up voluntarily like Donaire did. Yet not only has he not done that but he has to refused when publicly called out. Edwin called his bluff plain and simple, even said he'd pay for it

You're arguing the wrong thing, obviously he's not "guilty" of juicing because he's never failed a test but he is avoiding testing that will best determine if he's guilty of not. The question is why is he refusing to take the the test that he has advocated for years and is free of charge and will prove he's clean?

People have to force him to take it by dropping him off their network, or dropping out of a fight? This is ridiculous, how can you defend this?


The most proactive and easiest thing is Ward taking the test. Listen to yourself, other people have to do things like boycott, drop out of fights, or ban him to "force" him to take the tests when Ward can simply take the tests?

If you want a cleaner sport. Do something about it. If not, accept it for what it is. Ward has no obligation to do anything other than what's specified in his contract. Rodriguez has every right to threaten to walk away but he didn't. Bradley spoke out and forced the NSAC to use stricter testing at the risk of losing millions. That's what I respect.

[Godsfly]

Yes, a show to call wards bluff. Edwin is taking the test no matter what, while ward isnt because edwin "suggested it"

Everything will still go on if ward doesnt take the test, it will make no difference at all. This has nothing to do with edwin and everything to do with why Ward wont voluntarily take it. Ward is not being forced to take the test, but he is given the option, yet he chose no, while for 4 years saying testing is good for boxing

ok.....so you agree that it was a all out publicity stunt from Rodriguez.

heres wards position..........I'm not giving you anything for trolling at a press conference. & in fact i will take the test in my next fight & so on and so fourth. but you (Rodriguez) you don't get nothing from me because you attempted to use immature clown antics at press conference (and didn't say anything at the actual discussions table. not one word) so you get nothing from me. afterwards i will do testing but you (Rodriguez) get nothing from me.

[DoktorSleepless]

yes it does..............everyone knows that everything is settle in negotiations. (EVERYTHING)

if Rodriguez didn't bring it up in negotiations he had no real intentions for both men undergo testing.

Edwin and his intentions are irrelevant. In fact, Edwin has said it himself that he doesn't give a damn if Ward takes it so he actually agrees with you to that extent. Might this mean Edwin doesn't care about cleaning up the sport himself as much as he lets on? Maybe. But he's still doing 365/24/7 testing, which is a ton more than anyone in the sport (except Donaire) can say. On the other hand, Ward is just showing he doesn't give a damn at all.

I'm not giving you anything for trolling at a press conference

For fuck's sake, Edwin is the one is giving Andre Ward something, not the other way around. In what world do we live in where you have to negotiate to basically be given 20 thousand dollars to buy something you have stated you wanted in the past?

It's like giving you $20k for that brand new car you always wanted, but refusing it for some crazy reason.

[Godsfly]

He gave ward the option, take the test to show you're clean or dont. He left it up to ward. But ward is like a little kid "I'm not gonna do it because he wants me to". You're still not getting it, Edwin is not demanding it, and never has. Its a PR stunt because Ward said no, Edwin has nothing to gain from Ward taking the test.

Ward doesnt have to take the tests. But why would anyone refuse to take test that is suggest and paid for and that he has advocated for years? THere is no excuse

period point blank

i explained all of this in my last post..............

[illpapi]

It is a publicity stunt by Rodriguez. Drug testing doesn't suddenly just slip your mind then occur to you after all the stuff is signed. Ward has no obligation to submit to any of his demands this late.

Well, perhaps, Rodriguez thought that asking for one million and drug testing would have definitely killed the fight. So, he figured after it was signed he would put him on the spot and see if that would work. I can see that scenario playing out as well. It's all in how you look at it. Now, one thing is for sure...if somehow Ward wins by ko then I will definitely be su****ious because Rodriguez has a solid chin. So, let's see what happens.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Yes, a show to call wards bluff. Edwin is taking the test no matter what, while ward isnt because edwin "suggested it"

Everything will still go on if ward doesnt take the test, it will make no difference at all. This has nothing to do with edwin and everything to do with why Ward wont voluntarily take it. Ward is not being forced to take the test, but he is given the option, yet he chose no, while for 4 years saying testing is good for boxing

I hope Ward gets pressed and I think he will. He sounds so fucking lame right now.

[Godsfly]

Edwin is and is intentions are irrelevant. In fact, Edwin has said it himself that he doesn't give a damn if he takes it so he actually agrees with you to that extent. Might this mean Edwin doesn't care about cleaning up the sport himself as much as he lets on? Maybe. But he's still doing 365/24/7 testing, which is a ton more than anyone in the sport (except Donaire) can say. On the other hand, Ward is just showing he doesn't give a damn at all.


For fuck's sake, Edwin is the one is giving Andre Ward something, not the other way around. In what world do we live in where you have to negotiate to basically be given 20 thousand dollars for something Andre Ward has stated he wanted in the past.

It's like giving you $20k for that brand new car you always supposedly wanted, but refusing it for some crazy reason.

"It's like giving you $20k for that brand new car you always supposedly wanted, but refusing it for some crazy reason"

very bad comparison..........something that you always wanted? first of all. ward has taken randomized testing all through out his amatuer career (it's nothing new) it's not about the testing but it's more that edwin rubbed ward the wrong way. ward is all about business & being professional. if you bring up testing outside of the discussion table you're trolling. & ward will not give edwin anything........if edwin really doesn't care about ward testing (as u say) he wouldn't have brought it up at the press conference. and if he was actually serious about it he would have brought it up at the discussion table......a joke.


now if ward doesn't take testing after this fight (like he said he would do) then i agree, the heat should be on. but for this specific situation, it's all a joke.

troll on............

[DoktorSleepless]

Positives for taking drug test

• $20k drug testing for free
• Do something you always wanted to do
• Prove to the world you're clean
• Avoid public backlash
• Making Rodriguez look like a bitch for calling his bluff (if it was a stunt)

Negatives for taking drug test if clean

• ???

Negatives for taking drug test if dirty

• Get caught

[Weebler I]

if Rodriguez didn't bring it up in negotiations he had no real intentions for both men undergo testing. him bringing it up at a press conference is a bit of a show & a stunt.

They contacted Ward's team about testing a week or two before the press conference.

If you want a cleaner sport. Do something about it. If not, accept it for what it is. Ward has no obligation to do anything other than what's specified in his contract. Rodriguez has every right to threaten to walk away but he didn't. Bradley spoke out and forced the NSAC to use stricter testing at the risk of losing millions. That's what I respect.

Rodriguez doesn't believe Ward is dirty, he was offering Ward the chance to join him in proving to the fans they are both clean.

Ward declined, so boxing fans are su****ious.

[-PBP-]

They contacted Ward's team about testing a week or two before the press conference.



Rodriguez doesn't believe Ward is dirty, he was offering Ward the chance to join him in proving to the fans they are both clean.

Ward declined, so boxing fans are su****ious.

To Rodriguez - Don't take the fight. Threaten to walk away like Bradley did. Worked for him.

To Fans - Boycott HBO