Anyone else think Khan looks worst with virgil?

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  • #1Assassin
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    #21
    Originally posted by jvsnypes
    It looks to me like he's thinking too much now instead of just fighting naturally. That can be very dangerous. I think he's set in his ways and getting a new trainer defeats the point. Hill is trying to change up his style, but its that style that made him effective.Where he was a very good fighter with a glass chin, now he's becoming an average fighter with a glass chin. He will never be an elite fighter. Hill is taking away the tools that would possibly get him an upset against someone like Mayweather. Khan has to throw a lot of punches and move around the ring. That's what got him to where he is now. To make him slow down and become a thinking fighter takes away from his strengths.
    i disagree completely.

    blaiming khans chin for all his failures is just an excuse and a lazy one at that. his problems go far beyond that.

    hunter is trying to improve those flaws, but it takes time. it might even get worse before it gets better but its somethign that has to be done. khans flaws are too big and many, at this level he simply wont get away with it anymore.

    hunter really istn trying to change his style, just make him pay more attention to his distancing, pick his punches more and most importantly pay attention to whats coming back. i agree amir looks like he is overthinking at the moment, but thats natural as its a lot to keep in his head all at once. with time these things will become natural and he will be in a perfect situation where he both acts instinctively and makes calculated decisions at once.

    hunter hasnt taken anything good away from khan, the punches he isnt throwing werent worth a damn anyways. just nervous energy turned into wasted motion. his energy is better spent on throwing accurate and intelligent punches. the same thing applies to his movement, he is still moving just not running around the ring like a chicken with its head cut off wasting energy. now he moves with intelligence, taking fewer but smarter steps so that he doesnt waste energy and puts himself in position to land quality punches.

    all this wont happen over night though, it takes time. it does need to get done however, it was this or retirement. he will never be the smartest fighter in boxing, but if he wants to remain relevant he cant be the dumbest either.

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    • LacedUp
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      #22
      Originally posted by #1Assassin
      i disagree completely.

      blaiming khans chin for all his failures is just an excuse and a lazy one at that. his problems go far beyond that.

      hunter is trying to improve those flaws, but it takes time. it might even get worse before it gets better but its somethign that has to be done. khans flaws are too big and many, at this level he simply wont get away with it anymore.

      hunter really istn trying to change his style, just make him pay more attention to his distancing, pick his punches more and most importantly pay attention to whats coming back. i agree amir looks like he is overthinking at the moment, but thats natural as its a lot to keep in his head all at once. with time these things will become natural and he will be in a perfect situation where he both acts instinctively and makes calculated decisions at once.

      hunter hasnt taken anything good away from khan, the punches he isnt throwing werent worth a damn anyways. just nervous energy turned into wasted motion. his energy is better spent on throwing accurate and intelligent punches. the same thing applies to his movement, he is still moving just not running around the ring like a chicken with its head cut off wasting energy. now he moves with intelligence, taking fewer but smarter steps so that he doesnt waste energy and puts himself in position to land quality punches.

      all this wont happen over night though, it takes time. it does need to get done however, it was this or retirement. he will never be the smartest fighter in boxing, but if he wants to remain relevant he cant be the dumbest either.
      Good post and very accurate appraisal of what's happening with him at the moment.

      Agree completely.

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      • JACK1190
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        #23
        Been saying this for some time now, virgil seems to have slowed him down and its always been his work rate that got him where he is. He should have stay with roach but just distanced himself from a tare-up in the later round and use his reach and boxed, and guaranteed he wouldn't have lost his belts, cause he has a lot of ability that people don't give him credit for. In saying all that he is a bit chiny, but I will give virgil some credit he's working on fattening up his neck which could have and impact on his shot resistance.

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        • Kris Silver
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          #24
          Originally posted by JohnSmithJr;13Diaz25
          Haha! Just noticed after you pointed it out. It should be "looks worsed"
          Worse.

          Sadly the maidana vs diaz comparison is right. It reminds me of May snr trying to make Hatton more slick and better defensively. Unless its making slight gradual additions you end up taking away as much as you put in. It all has impacts on the style and you can't entirely change a leapards spots.

          A lot of it has further confused him and his flow. He looks completely dumb founded when enduring an attack.

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          • JAMES_THUNDER
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            #25
            Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
            Looks "worst"
            sorry bro, English isn't my native language .

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            • Elotero
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              #26
              Originally posted by jvsnypes
              It looks to me like he's thinking too much now instead of just fighting naturally. That can be very dangerous. I think he's set in his ways and getting a new trainer defeats the point. Hill is trying to change up his style, but its that style that made him effective.Where he was a very good fighter with a glass chin, now he's becoming an average fighter with a glass chin. He will never be an elite fighter. Hill is taking away the tools that would possibly get him an upset against someone like Mayweather. Khan has to throw a lot of punches and move around the ring. That's what got him to where he is now. To make him slow down and become a thinking fighter takes away from his strengths.

              Khan is being trained by Virgil Hunter, not Virgil Hill.

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              • bojangles1987
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                #27
                He has to this point, but it's not exactly easy to completely overhaul a fighter's style after they've won world titles fighting a certain way. Especially an egomaniac like Khan.

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                • microMXL
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                  #28
                  both Khan and Angulo look worse with Hunter

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