Is Pacquiao shot?

[Evol]

GTFO troll.

Wtf??? So PAC trains on the regular even when he doesn't have a fight??

[Evol]

Ok. I'll bet you 10,000,038,114.08/ I've got manny. To make it fair if Rios wins I'll give you double this-20,000,076,228.16.

for the record, your theory is ******ed. when have you ever seen me take a fighter against Pac? not JMM, not tim, not Margs.

The only way I see Pac losing is by robbery. If he loses, well then I'll apologize and wear it.

Sig updated. It doesn't matter to me I'm just having some fun, win or lose PAC is still my boy.

[The Big Dunn]

Sig updated. It doesn't matter to me I'm just having some fun, win or lose PAC is still my boy.

of course. I know this. Least you aren't a phagg like hec and ifctitles.

See what happens when you put the blunt down for a second.

[Evol]

of course. I know this. Least you aren't a phagg like hec and ifctitles.

See what happens when you put the blunt down for a second.

Dunn ur smarter than this. Don't be like one of those anti marijiana people. Studies shows marijuana doesn't kill brain cells it actually helps in other ways ex: cancer, body pain, anxiety, insomnia, the list goes on. Don't be so narrow minded.

[The Big Dunn]

i think he is shot... but it doesnt mean he isnt competitive on a high level. i noticed a decline after the margs fight. shane/jmm3/tim were examples of pac not looking that great, as if he expected to get the decisions so he took it easy. there was no killer instinct or motivation.

i think there are numerous factors to his decline: shopworn, lack of motivation, lack of focus, neglect of conditioning....

i think thats the major difference between pac and floyd: floyd is money motivated and will do anything to maintain it (he never slacks off).... pac seems to just show up for a paycheck (at this point in his career). it seems he is content with what he accomplished, the hunger is gone. pac/jmm4 was the first time pac looked "hungry"... unlucky for him, jmm was hungrier.

at least be honest that tim/moslet/JMM all utilize movement, something Margarito didn't, and that fact more than anything contributed to Manny not looking like he usually does.

both pac and floyd are money motivated (why else does one turn down $40 mil and no ppv because the percentage of overall profit is relatively small) -the difference is all floyd has ever been is a boxer while Manny always seemed to have other interests-kickboxing, singing, acting, politics.

Manny clearly is in the last stages of his career. That said, there is nothing in the last 3 or 4 fights that have shown he is shot other than the lack of a KO, which is more related to the attributes of the opponents not manny's decline.

Rios is getting KTFO!!

[Bermuda]

i think pac might be shot after that brutal KO...he looked disinterested against bradley which led some to believe he lost dedication in the sport...

hard to see ANYONE coming back 100% after getting brutally ko'ed like pac did...wouldn't surprise me at all if pac comes out looking very gun shy or his punch resistance being down the drain...

i think alot of people are in denial thinking that somehow pac can come back looking like his old self and just tear a young guy like rios apart...but the truth is pac has been a pro since he was 16, has gone through MANY wars and has taken MANY flush shots, and the marquez KO was the final nail ..

[LacedUp]

Based on what? the 3rd JMM fight was close like the 1st one. Manny, IMO, beat tim 8-4. Yes manny lost the last 3 rounds.The JMM KO was just as I described. The mistakes he made were not anything we haven't seen before.

The TS cites his performances in his last 3 fights as eidence of being shot. Nothing in these last 3 fights show this. The KO was a well placed punch he didn't see-thats not evidence of being shot.

I haven't claimed he was shot at all. I'm asking what you think. I just said on the basis of those fights.

I'm just interested in hearing people's opinion, because if Rios beats him - I think the history pages will say he beat a shot pacquiao.

[WilkinsOlajuwon]

Perhaps this thread needs a proper definition of the term "shot"

[junior gong]

BigDunnland - Where fighters dont decline with age, wear and tear etc. A magical place where fighters are miraculously unaffected by getting sparked clean out.

[The Big Dunn]

I haven't claimed he was shot at all. I'm asking what you think. I just said on the basis of those fights.

I'm just interested in hearing people's opinion, because if Rios beats him - I think the history pages will say he beat a shot pacquiao.

ok. on the basis of these 3 fights no he isn't shot.

Depends on how he wins. Look if rios wins by KO i'll be shocked-as shocked as I was when Buffer said Tim Bradley beat him or Lennon said 114-114 a draw. I'll eat crow and humbly apologize to evol, hectari, iftitles and every other manny fan.

I just can't see it.

Maybe manny gets robbed again like the bradley fight. Thats the only way I see him winning.