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I like Bradley, but he's just not that good.
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Originally posted by The Weebler I View PostMarquez beats Garcia imo. JMM has difficulty when he's forced to come forward against movers. Garcia would come forward in their bout and his footwork is average at best, he's no mover.
JMM picks him off counter-punching, too skilled for Garcia imo. I don't think JMM would be bothered by his size either, he's accurate and under Memo he's also powerful.
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Originally posted by The Weebler I View PostIn a fight with Marquez he would come forward, I'm fairly certain of that and he wouldn't be able to get back out of range fast enough to avoid getting tagged. Garcia should box him on the backfoot, but I'm sure he wouldn't. He wouldn't have boxed Matthysse on the backfoot either but the power forced him back. Garcia is not a slick boxer, he's a fighter and he won't move until he's forced to.
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I had Pac beating Bradley in their fight and what is annoying about Bradley is that he really thinks he won that fight and so do his fans.
Yes, we know on paper he did beat Pac but come on now Bradley left the arena in a wheelchair.
Because Pac twisted both his ankles from Bradley trying to avoid Pac's Punches. Bradley looked like 2 Pac in a wheelchair after he got shot up in NY. I had Provodnikov beating Bradley by a point in their fight. I don't know how that ref didn't score that early knockdown in this fight that was clearly a KD.
I do give Bradley a lot of props in that fight he showed a lot heart in that fight. I bet 500 bucks that Bradley would beat Marquez and he did. Marquez looked puzzled in the ring that night. He was following Bradley around the ring and getting hit.Bradley had a great game plan and won the fight 115 to 113.
Bradley is a solid fighter he comes to win and has fought who ever his promotor puts in front of him. Whether it was Gary Shaw or Bob Arum.
Bradley was right Marquez should have retired after that Pac KO.
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Originally posted by True Alpha Male View PostDon't get me wrong I'm not hating, I admire his chin, relentlessness and will but he's just not 'elite', he doesn't have the 'it factor'. He has no power, and his defense really isn't anything special either, he is certainly not 'slick' it pisses me off when I hear people call him slick and a 'technician' like Schafer did, I think the 'slick' label simply comes from him being African American.
He's now ranked no3 p4p by the ring which is an absolute joke, sorry but he would get beaten again by Pacquiao easily, Ortiz would possibly beat him(yes I did just say that), Danny Garcia would beat him and he'd have zero chance against Mayweather.
A robbery against Pac and a out boxing of an old man? Sorry I'm not buying the hype, yeah I know you'll bring up the Marquez KO but I don't follow triangle theories, Marquez always had Pac's number and even then you have to remember that they fought 4 times and Pac knocked him down like 5 times.
I like Bradley, but he's nothing special.
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People talking about compubox as if it is an accurate description is pure ******ity ..
Bradley not being good or elite is just ****** and let's me know,TS started following Bradley maybe around his fight with either Alexander or Casamayor..Bradley has beat a lot of opponents in a onesided fashion..
Outside of Prov,nobody has hit Bradley cleanly often..Before anyone say's Pac,once again,compubox is a joke..Pac landed 253 punches..LMAO what a joke..
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Originally posted by True Alpha Male View PostRewatch Matthysse vs Garcia, he defined slickness in that fight, catching and countering 'the machine'. Garcia is more skilled than Bradley, he's one of the most skilled fighters in the sport. Top 5 p4p skilled imo.
I like Garcia and imo he's is a top 6 p4p fighter..He also has beat some good fighters..Bradley has beat some of the best fighters in the sport..Garcia(and I'm a big fan)has yet to do that..
I seen Kev talking about Bradley took a lay off..Way to totally get that wrong..Bradley was in court getting out of his contract with Shaw(which news flash had ended),what he suppose to do,sign with Shaw to make fools like TS and Kev happy??The same two kinda fans that would still have made this thread about Bradley(in all honesty)no matter what he does??Khan has shown the world what he is..While I do give Garcia major props for beating Khan,it's not as impressive as Bradley beating Pac..Garcia has nothing on his resume to match the Pac and Marquez victory's..
No matter how hard they hate,it won't change that..Pac and Marquez put Bradley resume in to orbit..BTW Bradley clearly landed the harder punches all throughout the fight against Marquez..Not to mention he landed the best punch of the fight in the Pac fight..Last edited by Rome-By-Ko; 10-26-2013, 01:36 PM.
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Danny Garcia should be ranked higher Bradley. He has cleaned out the 140lb division. Something Bradley refused to do. He beat far better opponents than Bradley did in that division. AND in convincing fashion.
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Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View PostDanny Garcia should be ranked higher Bradley. He has cleaned out the 140lb division. Something Bradley refused to do. He beat far better opponents than Bradley did in that division. AND in convincing fashion.
But when it comes to cleaning out respective divisions, yes I would agree Danny has left no doubt he is the best 140 lb. but Timmy could still be 2nd or 3rd @ 147 depending how u saw the pac fight
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