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  • MoneyMayGoat
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    #31
    Originally posted by JaYDeuce11
    Manny n "his team" are f n idiots for never keaving Bob Arum. Even Cotto who was less of a star / influence left Bob Arum. Michael kocks w.e. his last name is...def working for arum as a spy to make sure he sticks with top rank.
    Pacquiaos boxing name was / still is the biggest name aside mayweather. He should sit out next year for mayweather if he can KO rios. If he cant, hes carreer = over. Just fight a farewell fight in philippines if he cant ko or tko rios
    You think you and your team are doing better than them? I'm leaning towards taking them by 1st round KO.

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    • BUNGALOWS
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      #32
      PAC has more than enough equity to automatically get the Bradley fight if he beats Rios. There's no way you can deny that.

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      • MDPopescu
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        #33
        Originally posted by MDPopescu
        That's how Arum might lose Bradley.
        The first post on this thread is cited above...
        ... As Bradley wouldn't fight Manny and Prov again, you have to agree I'm quite right...

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        • The Big Dunn
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          #34
          Originally posted by BUNGALOWS
          Tim would've faced Ruslan, win, lose or draw with Manny. Tim would never have gotten to chance to fight JMM if the judges didn't screw PAC.

          At the end of the day, EVERYONE knows PAC won, so how is this even a question?
          tim fought jmm because JMM knocked manny out. I think tim won too and manny was robbed.

          you know there is no point to tim/manny 2 other than to see the judges score it differently. as such, why not give us something fresh like manny v ruslan instead?

          then give us the inevitable manny beating tim again.

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          • BUNGALOWS
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            #35
            Originally posted by Big Dunn
            tim fought jmm because JMM knocked manny out. I think tim won too and manny was robbed.

            you know there is no point to tim/manny 2 other than to see the judges score it differently. as such, why not give us something fresh like manny v ruslan instead?

            then give us the inevitable manny beating tim again.
            No, you're going by a different, hypothetical time table. It's not that clear cut.

            If Bradley never gets the gift decision, he isn't the champ. Therefore he has no equity. Therefore, he fights Ruslan, regardless. Then, Pac fights JMM. He gets KO'd, and then probably still fights Rios, OR, he fights winner of Bradley/Prov, in order to fight for JMM's belt.

            If none of that happens. Bradley waits for the winner of Pac/Rios to fight for JMM's belt.

            You don't go from losing to Pac, then beating Prov, and automatic title contender.

            And if JMM would've refused to fight winner of Pac/Bradley, then he forfeits the belt.

            Pac gets Bradley, end of story.

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              #36
              Originally posted by BUNGALOWS
              No, you're going by a different, hypothetical time table. It's not that clear cut.

              If Bradley never gets the gift decision, he isn't the champ. Therefore he has no equity. Therefore, he fights Ruslan, regardless. Then, Pac fights JMM. He gets KO'd, and then probably still fights Rios, OR, he fights winner of Bradley/Prov, in order to fight for JMM's belt.

              If none of that happens. Bradley waits for the winner of Pac/Rios to fight for JMM's belt.

              You don't go from losing to Pac, then beating Prov, and automatic title contender.

              And if JMM would've refused to fight winner of Pac/Bradley, then he forfeits the belt.

              Pac gets Bradley, end of story.
              you mean manny gets tim assuming he beats rios, right?

              You have advocated for action/excitment over boring fights. yet you want to see tim/manny 2, a fight you said was boring and that manny won 10-2 (i believe) over manny/ruslan.

              I think you can see that seems to be a contradiction.

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              • MDPopescu
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                #37
                No... Arum would rather go for a Manny-Prov fight in Moscow...

                Arum gave up Tim...

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                • BUNGALOWS
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Big Dunn
                  you mean maboribgts tim assuming he beats rios, right?

                  You have advocated for action/excitment over boring fights. yet you want to see tim/manny 2, a fight you said was boring and that manny won 10-2 (i believe) over manny/ruslan.

                  I think you can see that seems to be a contradiction.
                  When have I ever said Manny/tim was boring?

                  My point isn't about excitement. My point is, I don't want an already old ass Pacquiao getting into a war with Ruslan before he faces the guy that got a gift decision over him.

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                  • MDPopescu
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by BUNGALOWS
                    When have I ever said Manny/tim was boring?

                    My point isn't about excitement. My point is, I don't want an already old ass Pacquiao getting into a war with Ruslan before he faces the guy that got a gift decision over him.
                    Your point is obviously right...

                    But do you see Bradley risking another fight with Manny? I don't...

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                    • MamaHuevo
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by King-
                      To be fair, Cotto came back to Arum/Top Rank.
                      He didn't sign with them he is working with them Cotto has his own promotions company why would he sign with Top Rank. That way he can fight with any promoters hence he may fight Canelo if the Martinez fight doesn't materialize.

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