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  • richardt
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    #521
    Once again:
    A) he could be doing testing now because of peer pressure
    B) he could be doing testing because he thinks JMM was on PED's
    C) he could be doing testing because more and more champs are doing testing
    D) he could be doing testing because he decided to accept that if needles made him feel weak, it is better to accept that and move forward with testing
    E) he could be doing testing now and wanted to for at least 2 years but took the accusations and demands of Floyd in a personal way
    F) he had an epiphany, an awakening, a change of heart for one or more reasons.
    G) any number of other, unknown reasons
    ANY OF THESE ARE POSSIBLE! But haters without any facts will latch on to the one that suit their agenda without knowing what is going through Pac's mind or in his heart. I'm not going to speculate to the point of insistence on what was going on in Pac heart and in his mind and it takes a special kind of ******ity for someone to think they know exactly what motivated him. If someone here tried to take Pac to court to prove exactly which of these motivated Pac, they would be thrown out and laughed at.

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    • Marvellous1
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      #522
      Originally posted by richardt
      A) he could be doing testing now because of peer pressure
      B) he could be doing testing because he thinks JMM was on PED's
      C) he could be doing testing because more and more champs are doing testing
      D) he could be doing testing because he decided to accept that if needles made him feel weak, it is better to accept that and move forward with testing
      E) he could be doing testing now and wanted to for at least 2 years but took the accusations and demands of Floyd in a personal way
      F) he had an epiphany
      G) any number of other reasons
      ANY OF THESE ARE POSSIBLE! But haters without any facts will latch on to the one that suit their agenda without knowing what is going through Pac's mind or in his heart. I'm not going to speculate to the point of insistence on what was going on in Pac heart and in his mind and it takes a special kind of ******ity for someone to think they know exactly what motivated him. If someone here tried to take Pac to court to prove exactly which of these motivated Pac, they would be thrown out and laughed at.
      All any of us can do opinionate and speculate. That's what we do here. We can talk about we see and debate what we don't. I accept I'm speculating but it doesn't make it any less plausible. It's not motivated by hate just by the sequence of events and Pacquiao's past actions and statements. What I do know is, you can't make his past stance and present one both right, like some people are trying to do. The "it's good for boxing" doesn't marry up with his actions from late '09 to date. If he believed what he was saying he should explain past actions.

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      • richardt
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        #523
        Originally posted by Marvellous1
        All any of us can do opinionate and speculate. That's what we do here. We can talk about we see and debate what we don't. I accept I'm speculating but it doesn't make it any less plausible. It's not motivated by hate just by the sequence of events and Pacquiao's past actions and statements. What I do know is, you can't make his past stance and present one both right, like some people are trying to do. The "it's good for boxing" doesn't marry up with his actions from late '09 to date. If he believed what he was saying he should explain past actions.
        Well then lets get him to detail his stance and that takes a deeper interview and even then haters will think he is lying and who knows if he is being sincere or not but that is just it...WHO KNOWS?! No one but him. "It's good for Boxing" could have been a change of heart or mind...you know that is a human trait, right? Anyone here could have had a stern belief in something and then change their heart and mind when presented with evidence and or an experience that changed them or an observation or time passed and they grew or had to make changes for whatever reason...it happens! So what he said marries up the to the realities I have seen with everyone in my life. Nothing new.

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        • ManOfVictory
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          #524
          nidols???????


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          • Rapid Counter
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            #525
            Originally posted by Big Dunn
            so because its manny you give as much validity to tertiary reasons as you do the most most logical primary reason. then you justify this by claiming the most logical reason is the "worst" one. wow.

            just because the logical reason makes manny look bad doesn't mean its the worst reason. you never have a problem choosing the most likely reason in any other scenario, especially when other fighters are involved.
            And BOOM goes the dynamite

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            • Marvellous1
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              #526
              [QUO=richardt;13873472]Well then lets get him to detail his stance and that takes a deeper interview and even then haters will think he is lying and who knows if he is being sincere or not but that is just it...WHO KNOWS?! No one but him. "It's good for Boxing" could have been a change of heart or mind...you know that is a human trait, right? Anyone here could have had a stern belief in something and then change their heart and mind when presented with evidence and or an experience that changed them or an observation or time passed and they grew or had to make changes for whatever reason...it happens! So what he said marries up the to the realities I have seen with everyone in my life. Nothing new.[/QUOTE]

              Usually a "change of heart" is brought about by experience or an event in life. That is very plausible indeed. Do you honestly believe Mayweather woke up one morning and thought: "You know what, I'm going to change boxing by demanding Pacquiao and I undergo olympic style testing"? That it was an epiphany? That he decided that boxing was the more important than himself? I don't.

              Look it's not a stretch to see that getting knocked cold finally made Pacquiao wise up. The good of boxing line is the one that's hard to swallow. One of his die hards Catchweightking, I think, seems to believe he's always known it's good for boxing but his pride was more important. Either way, this anti-Mayweather marketing has been blown apart with this piece of hypocrisy. People just can't accept that. These guys fight for money and the ones at the top do it how- and when it best suits them.

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              • The Big Dunn
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                #527
                Originally posted by richardt
                Once again:
                A) he could be doing testing now because of peer pressure
                B) he could be doing testing because he thinks JMM was on PED's
                C) he could be doing testing because more and more champs are doing testing
                D) he could be doing testing because he decided to accept that if needles made him feel weak, it is better to accept that and move forward with testing
                E) he could be doing testing now and wanted to for at least 2 years but took the accusations and demands of Floyd in a personal way
                F) he had an epiphany, an awakening, a change of heart for one or more reasons.
                G) any number of other, unknown reasons
                ANY OF THESE ARE POSSIBLE! But haters without any facts will latch on to the one that suit their agenda without knowing what is going through Pac's mind or in his heart. I'm not going to speculate to the point of insistence on what was going on in Pac heart and in his mind and it takes a special kind of ******ity for someone to think they know exactly what motivated him. If someone here tried to take Pac to court to prove exactly which of these motivated Pac, they would be thrown out and laughed at.
                this post reads like you are Manny's publicist. Basically you create 3 or 4 "plausible but not likely or possible reasons" for why manny flip flopped, line them up next to the most logical reason, and then claim because you don't know for sure which one it is that they are all equally valid or equally invalid.

                Is getting wet the only way you know its raining outside?

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                • WESS
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                  #528
                  Originally posted by Big Dunn
                  this post reads like you are Manny's publicist. Basically you create 3 or 4 "plausible but not likely or possible reasons" for why manny flip flopped, line them up next to the most logical reason, and then claim because you don't know for sure which one it is that they are all equally valid or equally invalid.

                  Is getting wet the only way you know its raining outside?
                  Come on you and I both know it's pouring (irony) outside but because these cats aren't getting (it) wet, it must prove that its not raining.

                  In fact the news channel says its sunny with 0% chance of rain so that must mean without a doubt it's not raining outside.

                  You know what it is though, using pacfan logic, it's only raining because Floyd Mayweather must be holding a water hose over your window. Because if the weather channel says its not raining, than by god in the world of a pac fan it is not raining!

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                  • TEKGaming
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                    #529
                    Originally posted by CatchweightKing
                    No position? the family has been involved in boxing for decades. They know enough managers, promoters, directors etc to have gotten the ball rolling long ago.


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                    It's about pull. Some 15-0 boxer isn't going to demand something unprecedented in the sport. He had the pull when he became the celebrity status he is today after the ODLH and Hatton fights and came back from retirement.

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                    • Evol
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                      #530
                      guys guys lets not argue, lets just look at the facts --

                      floyd= dad a convicted drug pusher, mom on crack.

                      pac= head seems like it got bigger?

                      LOL!!!

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