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This is what I am talking about too! He went from not wanting to do testing which is partly understandable because neither you nor me nor anyone here is going to do something that someone accuses us of and demands us to do - to finally saying, to hell with it, I will agree to all the random testing demands that Floyd is asking - to deciding to do random testing in his own fights. That is a progression and I have no problem with him progressing to doing what is right and no one knows all his motivations but the fact is he progressed in 2 stages. My only problem was that he handled the accusations and demands for the first testing talks in a child-like way. Pac should have not responded with the feeling weak taking blood talk or the law suit if he wanted to make sure the fight would happen. But it also means that Floyd should not have made accusations and demands because that is NOT how you influence people. And at that time just asking for the test was an insult because he never asked for any previous opponents. I blame both.
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I must have people lawyered on here because they can't face straight up questions that this article throws up.
Did Pacquiao always know that random testing is good for boxing? If so, why didn't he ACT on that until four years after it was raised? Why does he feel compelled to participate now, for a comeback fight rather than agree in principle for just one? Why wasn't the good of boxing important for the past four years?
You don't have to be a fan of one fighter or another to pose these questions.Comment
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Don't agree at all. Floyd had every right to ask for drug testing, just as Pac had every right to ask for the 10 mil per lb penalty(Floyd had never come in overweight in a fight..PERIOD). Floyd should not be to blame for making that request. Now the accusations, sure it wasn't right, but when have you ever seen a fighter not take a fight because the other said something bad or accused them of something? Pac never asked any of his previous opponents, should Rios have considered it an insult and said no? Why always this kid glove stuff with Pac's feelings?Comment
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I blame both too. Because, as I said before, I don't think either cares more about boxing than they do about themselves. Mayweather wasn't motivated by the good of boxing when he asked for testing, no matter what crap he said at the time. He didn't believe Pacquiao achieved all he was achieving naturally. He wanted piece of mind so demanded testing.
Pacquiao probably deep down doesn't believe he lost fair and square to Marquez. He can't prove it, but wants to be sure it doesn't happen again. "It's good for boxing" is more media friendly than "I don't want to risk getting KO'd by a juice head". Still, it's hypocritial because it's about what's good for him.
If it was about boxing, Mayweather would've been testing his whole career and Pacquiao would've start from '10 onwards. People have a problem accepting Pacquiao's fallibility here because he's been the anti-Mayweather for so long. Really, he's about pleasing himself and this BS statement proves it. I have no problem with it, but those spending so much time deflecting and spinning clearly can't bring themselves to accept it. It's funny and tragic at the same time. Like watching a 6 year old's reaction when they learn Santa Claus isn't real by accident.Last edited by Marvellous1; 10-25-2013, 12:31 PM.Comment
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Did Pac accuse Rios of PEDS? Before Floyd and Pac sat at the negotiating table, Floyd had concerns about how Pac was able to go up in weight and carry his power and that is why he demanded testing and that turned into an accusation that went full boar and created the stalemate and a lawsuit resulted. Pac has never indicated that he wanted testing because he thought Rios was on PEDS. HUGE DIFFERENCE!Comment
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come on richardt. why else would he ask for testing.
it seems as if you are doing everything to find the silver lining in this when there is none. Pac is just as bad as floyd and it doesn't help if his fans can't and won't admit that.
the only difference is rios accepted without fanfare because he wants the payday/opportunity. Manny made an issue of it most likely because he was either looking for a reason not to fight or because he was afraid of gettin caught.Comment
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Nope. He wants it because he or his team suspect someone else was. Either way, this "good for boxing" stuff is crap because if it was true and he was the character people believe, he would've participated sooner. It didn't suit him before but it suits him now. The good of boxing is nothing to do with it.Comment
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I don't automatically assume Pac is doing random testing because of the JMM fight and he never accused JMM or Rios of being on PED's. There has been pressure for years for Pac to do testing and his progression to acceptance in 2 stages shows his evolvement into this. Anyone drawing one conclusion without knowing what goes on inside of Pac is clearly a hater. He could have easily decided that more and more fighters and champs are doing testing and it is time to get on the bandwagon. Or that he was preparing the possibility of a Floyd fight by doing random testing in advance of that. Maybe he thought JMM was on something but he did NOT accuse publicly and humiliate a fighter by accusations.Comment
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Why else??? Because of peer pressure....because he wants to have a better setup for a potential Floyd fight.....many reasons but haters always look to the worse. There are many possibilities, THAT is my point and any of them could be the reason, not just the one the haters pick out. That is too predictable and expected from haters. NO ONE KNOWS what motivated Pac to progress in 2 stages and THAT IS THE POINT and hater speculation is not fact. NO ONE KNOWS, PERIOD! I could create a bulleted list and no one would know what motivated him without knowing what is in his heart.Comment
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