If PED use was allowed and safely administered by athletic commissions?

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  • L3TH4L
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    #11
    Originally posted by .Mexico.
    Best post here.
    Not exactly, he completely misinterpreted my point. This isn't a discussion about legalizing PEDs, it's about speculating who the best P4P boxers will be when conditioning no longer becomes a factor and all fights are determined by pure skill.

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    • BrokenHat
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      #12
      You guys realise, probably 90-80% of these professional fighters use PEDS right?

      In EVERY single sport that doesn't have a real dope testing regime, most of it's users use PEDs.

      Happened in baseball, happened in the Olympics, happened in Cycling, etc, etc

      And now it's happening in boxing. Why do you think all these guys in their mid to late 30s are now stronger and faster than they were in there 20s?

      And the incentive to use PEDS is the greater than in any other sport. So if everyone in a sport like cycling is using PEDS? How many do you think are using it in boxing? Almost all.

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      • kardsufur
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        #13
        Imagine how many deaths boxing would have or gerald mclellan like injuries if everyone used super Peds. Would be alot of power punchers rocking each other in the face rattling each other's brains.

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          #14
          Then Floyd would be legit.

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          • MikeRo1972
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            #15
            They all use. In order for a fighter to get busted he has to be greedy about his PED use.
            Last edited by MikeRo1972; 10-22-2013, 06:55 PM.

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            • The Ninth Layer
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              #16
              If PEDs became legal then sports would be more about seeing just how far modern pharmaceutical science can go than any actual athletic ability.

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              • L3TH4L
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                #17
                Originally posted by BrokenHat
                You guys realise, probably 90-80% of these professional fighters use PEDS right?

                In EVERY single sport that doesn't have a real dope testing regime, most of it's users use PEDs.

                Happened in baseball, happened in the Olympics, happened in Cycling, etc, etc

                And now it's happening in boxing. Why do you think all these guys in their mid to late 30s are now stronger and faster than they were in there 20s?

                And the incentive to use PEDS is the greater than in any other sport. So if everyone in a sport like cycling is using PEDS? How many do you think are using it in boxing? Almost all.
                Have you ever questioned why elite athletes rarely campaign against PED use?

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                • helloimanton
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                  #18
                  This is ridiculous, so now we're talking about legalising PED? ****** topic shouldn't even have made a thread -_-7

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                  • L3TH4L
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by helloimanton
                    This is ridiculous, so now we're talking about legalising PED? ****** topic shouldn't even have made a thread -_-7
                    Narrow-minded idiots like you shouldn't be allowed to post. If you're too ****** to provide a relevant opinion then GTFO.

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                    • MikeRo1972
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by helloimanton
                      This is ridiculous, so now we're talking about legalising PED? ****** topic shouldn't even have made a thread -_-7
                      Consider that a normal adult male's T ratio is 1:1. It takes 50 units of T to raise that ratio to 2:1. According to WADA a ratio 4:1 is dirty. So a boxer can legally use almost 150 units of T to bulk up... LEGALLY. Think about that for a minute. That's basically giving athletes a threshold of how much juice they could have in their system without failing a test. Now consider NEVADA/NSAC and NY/NYSAC allow a fighter a juiced to the gills 6:1 ratio. In order for a test to come up dirty in Nevada or NY the ratio has to be 6.1:1 or GREATER. That's up to 300 units of T in a boxers system before it's considered dirty. THATS CRAZY.

                      So for a boxer to come up dirty he is simply being greedy with the already allowed threshold of PEDs a boxer can legally have in his system. The conclusion is that most (if not all) boxers cheat because the commissions allow for the use up to a certain threshold.

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