Comments Thread For: Arum: I Want Rigondeaux To Be More Fan-Friendly

[al-Xander]

Take it from Golden Girl Schaefer:

"You look at a Marcos Maidana, a Josesito Lopez, a Danny Garcia, a Lucas Matthysse, an Amir Khan, a Canelo, a Kirkland, an Angulo, and the list goes on and on. That's what the fight fans and the TV networks want to see. They are very invested in winning and losing, but they want to see exciting fights. It used to be a for a long time, that you had to go back in line and start over again. That's not the case anymore. Josesito Lopez, just because he lost - it doesn't mean he goes back to the end of the line, he's right back in the mix. I think up until a few years ago that's' not the way boxing worked. I think we took a page out of the UFC's playbook, because with the UFC excitement is rewarded," Schaefer said to BoxingScene.com

"I think TV networks, at least Showtime, is rewarding excitement as well. When you see a fight like a Rignodeaux or a Gamboa - they don't have very crowd pleasing styles. And I think as a result it makes them much more difficult to sell, and it has nothing to do with promoting."

After the fight was over, Schaefer was annoyed by some of the comments being made by members of Lara's team, who the Golden promoter firmly believes were over-blowing the Cuban boxer's status in the industry.

"When DeCubas Sr. and other people with him are jumping up and down and telling me what a beast Lara is and how sensation he is and how entertaining he is - I'm like 'wait, slow down a bit.' He won, but lets be realistic and lets be honest here with each other. I think we knew Lara was a good boxer but we didn't know how he would react if he got dripped. And he got dropped twice. He showed that he can deal with adversity and that I was very impressed with," Schaefer said.

"But if you are going to come to me, whether it's DeCubas Sr. and whoever else it, and talk realistic with me - then I am all for it. But don't come to me and say that he's one of the most exciting guys ever - because he is not. Lets not bull**** each other. That doesn't mean that he's not a good fighter, because I'm very proud of what Erislandy Lara showed. I think what really pissed me off more, is people from his team making these unrealistic moments. Lets call it what it is, he is a different kind of fighter which is okay. Who would want to see Erislandy Lara against Austin Trout? That wouldn't be an exciting fight."

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[sicko]

Your lack of intelligence is quite a sight to see. Entertaining means, "Go for the knockout" not "allow yourself to be hit".

But you're entirely to dense to know the difference.

You B1tches (like yourself of course) who only been watching boxing for probably 5 years max think Rules should be changed so you can be entertained...Rules that been around for Decades all of a sudden you want them changed because your favorite fighter can't ***in compete with Boxers LMFAO

NO Rigondeaux, Mayweather, Miguel Vazquez, Carlos Molina who ever, it is not their job to HELP THEIR OPPONENT. If your as good as you say you are you should be able to figure your opponent out and find an effective way to defeat him and his style...I mean damn your give 12 Rounds to make adjustments and to figure your opponent out

How is it those fighters fault that their opponent was never taught the proper way to box, was never taught how to cut the ring off, was never taught how to fight inside, was never taught how to use a Proper Jab, was never taught proper footwork we are blaming Boxers who are smart enough to take advantage of their opponents Flaws...How does that make any sense!

All this talk about Exciting Brawlers but yet none of them are a Draw and none of them can headline a PPV Event

Go For The Finish? For what!? Especially if I am up 11 Rounds to 0 going into the 12 Round so yeah Risk It All and go for the KO after building up and insurmountable lead on the cards

[kozone]

You B1tches (like yourself of course) who only been watching boxing for probably 5 years max think Rules should be changed so you can be entertained...Rules that been around for Decades all of a sudden you want them changed because your favorite fighter can't ***in compete with Boxers LMFAO

NO Rigondeaux, Mayweather, Miguel Vazquez, Carlos Molina who ever, it is not their job to HELP THEIR OPPONENT. If your as good as you say you are you should be able to figure your opponent out and find an effective way to defeat him and his style...I mean damn your give 12 Rounds to make adjustments and to figure your opponent out

How is it those fighters fault that their opponent was never taught the proper way to box, was never taught how to cut the ring off, was never taught how to fight inside, was never taught how to use a Proper Jab, was never taught proper footwork we are blaming Boxers who are smart enough to take advantage of their opponents Flaws...How does that make any sense!

All this talk about Exciting Brawlers but yet none of them are a Draw and none of them can headline a PPV Event

Go For The Finish? For what!? Especially if I am up 11 Rounds to 0 going into the 12 Round so yeah Risk It All and go for the KO after building up and insurmountable lead on the cards

I couldn't agree more!! I want to see the most skilled BOXER...the one who has perfected his craft!!

[BendOver]

Work on your reading comprehension! I never said I supported Rigo getting boo'd, I said that Rigo got boo'd (which is a known fact) in that fight and still turned it around and ended it in exciting fashion which PROVES he can be exciting when he wants to be. Get it? Got it? Good!

I think they were boing ramos cuz he didn't want to engage, just the same way nonito didn't want to fight but he had more fans in attendance, it takes two to tango and it is hard for a natural counter-puncher to take the initiative, you put Rigondeaux in with a brawler and he will look spectacular

[al-Xander]

I think they were boing ramos cuz he didn't want to engage, just the same way nonito didn't want to fight but he had more fans in attendance, it takes two to tango and it is hard for a natural counter-puncher to take the initiative, you put Rigondeaux in with a brawler and he will look spectacular

Difference was Donaire was the belt holder in that fight. Rigo should have been the one chasing the belt instead of the other way around. Just like I didn't expect Floyd (the A side) to chase Canelo.

I thought Rigo was going to kill the Filipino in the ring by the way he behaved months and years leading to the fight. He stalked Donaire, he called him out everywhere he had access to the media. He was angry he was not being given a shot at Donaire. Fight came and all his focus was to survive the fight. WTF!

The Filipino Flash was forced to entertain the crowd even though he's a natural defensive counter puncher himself. The crowd was booing them.

[The Big Dunn]

Difference was Donaire was the belt holder in that fight. Rigo should have been the one chasing the belt instead of the other way around. Just like I didn't expect Floyd (the A side) to chase Canelo.

I thought Rigo was going to kill the Filipino in the ring by the way he behaved months and years leading to the fight. He stalked Donaire, he called him out everywhere he had access to the media. He was angry he was not being given a shot at Donaire. Fight came and all his focus was to survive the fight. WTF!

The Filipino Flash was forced to entertain the crowd even though he's a natural defensive counter puncher himself. The crowd was booing them.

he completely embarassed nonito. so much so that a ko loss may have been better. Least that way donaire could make an excuse of a lucky punch.

Instead he was left looking like a lil ***** saying his shoulder was hurt in the interview. terrible fight preformance and terrible post fight whining.

Rigo beat him so badly that he is the semi main, on a mikey garcia undercard, in a rematch against vic.

[al-Xander]

he completely embarassed nonito. so much so that a ko loss may have been better. Least that way donaire could make an excuse of a lucky punch.

Instead he was left looking like a lil ***** saying his shoulder was hurt in the interview. terrible fight preformance and terrible post fight whining.

Rigo beat him so badly that he is the semi main, on a mikey garcia undercard, in a rematch against vic.

That's why I don't blame people like Floyd for avoiding risky opponents. Guys like Abril and Vasquez are boring risky opponents for Broner, for instance. I don't blame Broner for skipping them. Donaire didn't have to fight the Cuban. But he's not a duck like your heroes are.

Like I said, I don't blame Broner, in particular, for skipping Vasquez or Abril. Man, I'll root for Broner if he fought those boring ****s. LOL. They'll ruin everyone's career. High risk, low reward.

[-PBP-]

That's why I don't blame people like Floyd for avoiding risky opponents. Guys like Abril and Vasquez are boring risky opponents for Broner, for instance. I don't blame Broner for skipping them. Donaire didn't have to fight the Cuban. But he's not a duck like your heroes are.

Like I said I don't blame Broner in particular for skipping Vasquez or Abril. Man, I'll root for Broner if he fought those boring fcks. LOL.

Stop making up ****. Broner didn't avoid anybody.:

Golden Boy matchmaker Eric Gomez, however, said that Vazquez's camp bypassed an offer to fight Broner, who defeated DeMarco instead.

"Before we fought DeMarco, I offered [promoter] Fernando Beltran the fight earlier this year to fight Adrien Broner, and they turned down $350,000 for that fightt," said Gomez. "Fernando Beltran said that he was the co-promoter for Vazquez, and he turned down that offer."

[CubanGuyNYC]

You B1tches (like yourself of course) who only been watching boxing for probably 5 years max think Rules should be changed so you can be entertained...Rules that been around for Decades all of a sudden you want them changed because your favorite fighter can't ***in compete with Boxers LMFAO

NO Rigondeaux, Mayweather, Miguel Vazquez, Carlos Molina who ever, it is not their job to HELP THEIR OPPONENT. If your as good as you say you are you should be able to figure your opponent out and find an effective way to defeat him and his style...I mean damn your give 12 Rounds to make adjustments and to figure your opponent out

How is it those fighters fault that their opponent was never taught the proper way to box, was never taught how to cut the ring off, was never taught how to fight inside, was never taught how to use a Proper Jab, was never taught proper footwork we are blaming Boxers who are smart enough to take advantage of their opponents Flaws...How does that make any sense!

All this talk about Exciting Brawlers but yet none of them are a Draw and none of them can headline a PPV Event

Go For The Finish? For what!? Especially if I am up 11 Rounds to 0 going into the 12 Round so yeah Risk It All and go for the KO after building up and insurmountable lead on the cards

Good post. I especially like the bold.

Ali and Frazier put on arguably the greatest fight trilogy in boxing history. Their styles couldn't have been more different. It came down to a third, classic meeting to determine the better man. If there's a guy out there to push and eventually beat Rigo, we'll know it. That man, should he exist, would make the encounter very exciting.

[CubanGuyNYC]

Difference was Donaire was the belt holder in that fight. Rigo should have been the one chasing the belt instead of the other way around. Just like I didn't expect Floyd (the A side) to chase Canelo.

I thought Rigo was going to kill the Filipino in the ring by the way he behaved months and years leading to the fight. He stalked Donaire, he called him out everywhere he had access to the media. He was angry he was not being given a shot at Donaire. Fight came and all his focus was to survive the fight. WTF!

The Filipino Flash was forced to entertain the crowd even though he's a natural defensive counter puncher himself. The crowd was booing them.

I saw the fight live and two more times on TV. Rigo engaged the first four or five rounds. He didn't back off. After he developed a good lead, Guillermo began to fight more defensively. In the twelfth round, Donaire was running backwards around the ring (literally running!) with his glove over his eye. I don't see how anyone can claim all Rigo focused on was "surviving."