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  • #11
    Originally posted by D-MiZe View Post
    He represents Ireland, his fanbase is Irish.
    If you told someone where he's from they weren't British, you'd be risking your health and possibly your life.

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    • #12
      Those born in Northern Ireland are Irish.

      I'd be in hysterics if I ever came face to face with a N.I native who proclaimed to be British. Britain bastardized Ireland, put the natives through some horrendous things and have still not rectified the problem.

      I know it runs deeper than nationality, into the murky waters of religion and we sure know how detrimental that is to civilization. Don't dare try and claim an Irishman as British.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by D-MiZe View Post
        Those born in Northern Ireland are Irish.

        I'd be in hysterics if I ever came face to face with a N.I native who proclaimed to be British. Britain bastardized Ireland, put the natives through some horrendous things and have still not rectified the problem.

        I know it runs deeper than nationality, into the murky waters of religion and we sure know how detrimental that is to civilization. Don't dare try and claim an Irishman as British.
        That would be roughly 1 million of them (out of their 1.8 million population).

        I guess you'll be telling Gibraltans they're Spanish and Falkland Islanders they're Argentinian too.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by The Weebler I View Post
          That would be roughly 1 million of them (out of their 1.8 million population).

          I guess you'll be telling Gibraltans they're Spanish and Falkland Islanders they're Argentinian too.
          The majority of Falkland Islanders and Gibraltans are of British descent. Have you not read about or looked into the partition of Ireland?

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          • #15
            Originally posted by D-MiZe View Post
            Those born in Northern Ireland are Irish.

            I'd be in hysterics if I ever came face to face with a N.I native who proclaimed to be British. Britain bastardized Ireland, put the natives through some horrendous things and have still not rectified the problem.

            I know it runs deeper than nationality, into the murky waters of religion and we sure know how detrimental that is to civilization. Don't dare try and claim an Irishman as British.
            Those born in Northern Ireland can choose their nationality be it Irish or British or even both according to the good Friday agreement. If someone born there is brought up in a protestant area with more British values than Irish, why throw a fit if they decide to claim they're British citizenship? It doesn't really matter.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Sknib View Post
              Those born in Northern Ireland can choose their nationality be it Irish or British or even both according to the good Friday agreement. If someone born there is brought up in a protestant area with more British values than Irish, why throw a fit if they decide to claim they're British citizenship? It doesn't really matter.
              I couldn't give a fuck whether they chose to represent Ireland, Britain or Neptune. I just don't agree with 'us' claiming him as British, despite him showing allegiances elsewhere... add to the fact 'we' created this whole mess...

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              • #17
                I can't speak for Frampton per se, but one of my closest friends is a catholic with Scottish (dad side) and Northern Irish (mum side) heritage living in England. Not one person in that large family considers themselves British.

                Strictly Scottish, or Irish.

                For what it's worth.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by D-MiZe View Post
                  The majority of Falkland Islanders and Gibraltans are of British descent. Have you not read about or looked into the partition of Ireland?
                  Same as Northern Ireland, English and Scots. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantation_of_Ulster

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                  • #19
                    Got a bit controversial in here didn't it?

                    The political situation in obviously a lot more tense in NI but McGuigan had an effect of uniting Ireland as an Island when he fought. I am sure Frampton has a similar galvanising effect and gain support all over Ireland and the UK.

                    So in a sense, nothing wrong with the thread title. He could become the most popular fighter from this part of the world based on the attendance at his last fight. But his support will be mainly Irish and he represents Ireland much like Eamonn Magee and John Duddy.

                    Also if he is successful and fights out New York in the future he'll probably coin it in.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by The Weebler I View Post
                      Same as Northern Ireland, English and Scots. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantation_of_Ulster
                      Seriously?

                      You don't see the difference from descendants living on various rocks that are either connected to or in close proximity to other countries claiming the territory and a country that was invaded, split in two then 'beefed' up with colonists who'll ensure their agenda remains the cause of tension for centuries to come...

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