toe to toe: provodnikov vs matthysse

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  • joesaiditstrue
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    #21
    Originally posted by Jloro
    Oh really? I didn't know that!
    Ruslan was hurt by Bradley lmao it isn't like he became some tank overnight suddenly stopping Mattysse easily
    you said old lucas fans are picking ruslan over him

    i'm showing you that isn't necessarily an accurate blanket statement that you should make

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    • Foreign Soil
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      #22
      Originally posted by joesaiditstrue
      Freddie Roach: "I'm gonna stop this fight if you don't show me something!"

      lmao

      watch the fight again, he definitely hurt Provodnikov a few times
      You're a troll for pulling out a trainer's quote.

      You watch the fight again. Ruslan was never hurt enough to do anything close to a dance. Nice exaggeration though.

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      • joesaiditstrue
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        #23
        Originally posted by Foreign Soil
        You're a troll for pulling out a trainer's quote.

        You watch the fight again. Ruslan was never hurt enough to do anything close to a dance. Nice exaggeration though.
        Bradley stunned him repeatedly, bro are you serious?

        stop yourself

        He had Ruslan stop dead in his tracks numerous times, and he was clearly hurt

        He never did a dance but there are other obvious signs of a guy being hurt, come on now

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        • Jloro
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          #24
          Originally posted by joesaiditstrue
          you said old lucas fans are picking ruslan over him

          i'm showing you that isn't necessarily an accurate blanket statement that you should make
          I was referring to the bandwagoners who hop on and off of winning power punchers

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          • Foreign Soil
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            #25
            Originally posted by joesaiditstrue
            Bradley stunned him repeatedly, bro are you serious?

            stop yourself

            He had Ruslan stop dead in his tracks numerous times, and he was clearly hurt

            He never did a dance but there are other obvious signs of a guy being hurt, come on now
            You're exaggerating. Clearly hurt? Haha, he was following Bradley the whole time, only once do I remember Ruslan backing off for a second and that was when it looked like a shot to the jaw or ear made him check himself.

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            • joesaiditstrue
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              #26
              Lucas took Danny's shots perfectly, I have no doubt his chin would hold up to Ruslan, especially since Ruslan isn't nearly as accurate as Danny showed in that fight

              I'm leaning towards Matthysse after thinking about it a little more but wouldn't be surprised if Ruslan just wore him down

              IMO it would take somebody with a bit more skill to stop Lucas, I've never seen Lucas even close to being hurt to the point of being stopped or knocked out

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                #27
                Originally posted by joesaiditstrue
                Lucas took Danny's shots perfectly, I have no doubt his chin would hold up to Ruslan, especially since Ruslan isn't nearly as accurate as Danny showed in that fight

                I'm leaning towards Matthysse after thinking about it a little more but wouldn't be surprised if Ruslan just wore him down

                IMO it would take somebody with a bit more skill to stop Lucas, I've never seen Lucas even close to being hurt to the point of being stopped or knocked out
                Ruslan fights going forward. Garcia fought going backwards against Matthysse. What is Matthysse going to do getting pushed back for a change? I can't help but think how he went 1-3 against Maidana in the amateurs and that Maidana's pressure was the reason because Maidana certainly isnt a better boxer.

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                • joesaiditstrue
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Foreign Soil
                  Ruslan fights going forward. Garcia fought going backwards against Matthysse. What is Matthysse going to do getting pushed back for a change? I can't help but think how he went 1-3 against Maidana in the amateurs and that Maidana's pressure was the reason because Maidana certainly isnt a better boxer.
                  that's why I think it's a 50-50 fight, only because we have yet to see Lucas fight a guy who's willing to come forward to him

                  but keep in mind, those amateur fights are 4-round fights.

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                  • Bushidō
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                    #29
                    I'll go with Matthysse for now. I think he's the better overall boxer.

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                    • brickcityboxing
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                      #30
                      Damn sure a lot of picks for Prov ... But meanwhile whenever anyone says Mathysse was overrated people jump all over it with "just because a guy lost to the best etc...." SMH.
                      Ask yourself were you picking Prov over Mathysse two months ago ?

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