When is the last time Floyd was in an exciting fight?

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  • WilkinsOlajuwon
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    #21
    Originally posted by dc3383
    The 1st Castillo fight showed me he will risk throwing his hands if the cards are close; he did it vs Cotto also. You shouldn't risk losing when it's a blowout.
    Dont confuse things. I'm not saying FLoyd has to go after the KO...but if someone is going to expect his opponent to risk throwing more, you have to expect floyd to do the same. Anything else is bias. But this is boxing so bias is part of the story.

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      #22
      Originally posted by WilkinsOlajuwon
      Shameful bias. Disappointing perspective. If you expect one man to risk getting hit to make the fight more interesting you expect the other as well.
      The only thing shameful is pretending I am saying something that only applies to floyd and then debating it. I'll make one more clarifying point.

      In every fight you've watched when a guy his losing his corner tells him to go for the KO to win. How many times have you heard a trainer tell a guy who is winning a fight to do same?

      As I said in the initial post, if floyd is ahead in round 8 or 9, his opponents have a choice. they can try for the KO to win, or they can settle for a UD loss. If the situation was reversed and floyd was losing-it would be on him to try and get the KO-not his opponent.

      No figter that has firmly established a lead in a fight should risk losing the fight for the sake of getting a KO. A ko win doesn't count more or less than a UD win.

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        #23
        Originally posted by shenmue
        Obviously i respect and admire the skills and talents of Floyd. he is the best IMO but i don't get that excited for his fights because after a few rounds you can tell he will win a comfortable UD with no real excitement. Floyd vs Hatton and Cotto were pretty good though but his last 2 bored me after a few rounds. Ortiz fight is hard to judge.

        There's better fights throughout the year and past years that are better enjoyment than Floyd fights, for example Ruslan vs Alvarado this Saturday will be a more exciting fight than the Canelo fight and that isn't on PPV.

        Floyd is on PPV because he is a Megastar personality out of the ring, his undefeated record, people wanting to see him lose and the fact that in the lower weight classes he was very entertaining which is what originally got him fans in the first place.
        How can you tell floyd is going to win?

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          #24
          Originally posted by Big Dunn
          I disagree. I don't think the fighter that is winning the fight needs to try to "win it better". I think if you are losing-whether its a team or individual sport-its on you to find a way to win.

          Respectfully, in no sport would we ask any team or individual to risk losing by trying to achieve a "better" margin of victory.
          People forget boxing is professional sport.

          In basketball you hold on to your lead by running down the shot clock while the opponent gets desperate and tries to shoot 3's and pick the pace up.

          In football you hold on to your lead by running the clock down while the other team calls more aggressive plays on offense.

          Those fans pay a lot of money for their tickets too.

          But in boxing, when you have a lead your supposed to take risks that can cost you your win? Its up to the guy that's losing to take risks and catch up on the scorecards or score a knockdown. The difference in boxing is that you can actually lose 11 rounds and still have a chance in the 12th by getting the KO. But I don't see Canelo, Guerrero or Cotto getting criticized.

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            #25
            Originally posted by LacedUp
            If Floyd wasn't Floyd, do you think his fights merits PPV?
            of course not. There are only 2 fights that should be on ppv-floyd v manny and wlad v vitali. everything else IMO is regular TV od HBO/SHo.

            You have to remember I came up in the era when fights like leonard benitez was on saturday afternoon on channel 7 or hearns cuebvas was on sunday at 1:00 on channel 2.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Big Dunn
              The only thing shameful is pretending I am saying something that only applies to floyd and then debating it. I'll make one more clarifying point.

              In every fight you've watched when a guy his losing his corner tells him to go for the KO to win. How many times have you heard a trainer tell a guy who is winning a fight to do same?

              As I said in the initial post, if floyd is ahead in round 8 or 9, his opponents have a choice. they can try for the KO to win, or they can settle for a UD loss. If the situation was reversed and floyd was losing-it would be on him to try and get the KO-not his opponent.

              No figter that has firmly established a lead in a fight should risk losing the fight for the sake of getting a KO. A ko win doesn't count more or less than a UD win.
              While fighters technically dont have to put their opponents away...plenty of ATGs did that very thing. Its why boxing is a sport to begin with. YOu lose sight of that and the only reason you claim otherwise is because you are brainwashed with all things Floyd. Its hysterical.

              You complain about being frustrated becuase the fights are anti climactic and then say its just on Floyd's opponents to fix that. Well maybe Floyd should choose different opponents.

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                #27
                Originally posted by PBP
                People forget boxing is professional sport.

                In basketball you hold on to your lead by running down the shot clock while the opponent gets desperate and tries to shoot 3's and pick the pace up.

                In football you hold on to your lead by running the clock down while the other team calls more aggressive plays on offense.

                Those fans pay a lot of money for their tickets too.

                But in boxing, when you have a lead your supposed to take risks that can cost you your win? Its up to the guy that's losing to take risks and catch up on the scorecards or score a knockdown. The difference in boxing is that you can actually lose 11 rounds and still have a chance in the 12th by getting the KO. But I don't see Canelo, Guerrero or Cotto getting criticized.
                Excellent points.

                THere comes a point when we can predict the outcome. At that point, the loser needs to do something to alter the predicted outcome.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Big Dunn
                  How can you tell floyd is going to win?
                  Are you saying that in the RG and Canelo fights, that after a few rounds you still thought they had a chance of victory?. I'll be surprised if anybody did as the speed, skills, and defense/movement were on another level. Seriously Floyd's problem is that he is so much better than the rest.

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                  • Hurtin-Bombs
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                    #29
                    I don't understand how mayweather catches so much crap? The guy is 36 and schooling these young fighters. Its well documented he has brittle hands so its not like he can just KO anyone he wants whenever he wants.

                    his hands were a mess after the guerrero fight

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                      #30
                      Never... He's boring as hell, most fans here confuse running with defense & being slick. You can be a defensive pure boxer with out getting on you bike, pop shot, not taking ANY risk to please the fans.

                      I guess the Castillo,ODH & Cotto were exiting, but only because those 3 are always in exiting fights & they show up to fight. The Cotto fight was exiting (well to Mayweather standard) because Miguel always makes his fights fan friendly.

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