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  • Frank Ducketts
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    #31
    Originally posted by OJ Simpson
    Bradley lost to Pacman dude. And Provodnikov.
    Nobody thinks that he lost to Provodnikov.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Frank Ducketts
      This won't work.
      That's reality kid.

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      • Frank Ducketts
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        #33
        Originally posted by HanzGruber
        I'm a broner fan obviously but he's done nothing to be top 10 yet. That's just dumb
        No, that is not dumb.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Frank Ducketts
          Adam, you can call it what you want, but I saw no struggle.
          Broner won clearly 115-113,,, but he had way too tough of a time with pauli,, if broner was the goods, he would have stopped pauli

          khan and hatton stopped him,,, and cotto fought an absolute prime version of pauli,, pauli has alot of guts, but if broner was a true p4p elite guy he would have beaten him easily..

          floyd, manny, danny, bradley, jmm, would have all made easy work of pauli, broner didnt........

          When dealing with young talents, i look to see if they blowout hand picked opponents,,, oscar did it, tito did it, jermaine taylor even did it,, this was a showcase fight for broner, and he failed miserable by making it a competitive fight,, broner won clearly but had way too tough of a time with pauli........ it would be like taylor having a rough time with joppy, or cotto going a tough 12 with pinto,

          Broner is a good fighter no doubt,, but he isnt the next big thing IMO,,, struggling with ponce and pauli doesnt make me think he is the next floyd,,, floyd fought genaro and manfredy at broner's age and crushed them,,,,

          broner, much like canelo, hasnt impressed me enough to think they are the next big thing,,, GGG and mikey garcia have been destroying fighters, not elite guys but blowing guys out they are suppose to blow out,,,,, broner has not done that yet,, good fighter but def not the next p4p king

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          • Cuban Linx
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            #35
            Originally posted by Frank Ducketts
            Please. Froch is more than worthy of his ranking. He beat Kessler. He clearly beat him, and that was a tough fight.
            He went to war with Kessler, P4P fighters don't go to war with the likes of Mikkel Kessler. He clearly beat him, not arguing that, but he also ate a lot of punches in that fight. His defense looked horrible.

            Rigo's performance against Donaire is much more impressive, especially cause Donaire is much better than Kessler.

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            • Frank Ducketts
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              #36
              Originally posted by Cuban Linx
              He went to war with Kessler, P4P fighters don't go to war with the likes of Mikkel Kessler. He clearly beat him, not arguing that, but he also ate a lot of punches in that fight. His defense looked horrible.

              Rigo's performance against Donaire is much more impressive, especially cause Donaire is much better than Kessler.
              Froch has a bunch of Kessler type wins. Rigo has one.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Frank Ducketts
                Froch has a bunch of Kessler type wins. Rigo has one.
                It's your list, but clearly you rate Kessler way higher than I do.

                Froch's best win was against Bute.

                He looked terrible against Jermain Taylor, Glen Johnson and Andre Dirrell (who he got a gift decision over).

                Obviously he got out classed by Ward. There's not shame in that, because Ward is no.2 P4P.

                I respect Froch, because he's willing to fight anyone. But in comparison to other P4P fighters, he's not as skilled as they are.

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                • Frank Ducketts
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
                  Broner won clearly 115-113,,, but he had way too tough of a time with pauli,, if broner was the goods, he would have stopped pauli

                  khan and hatton stopped him,,, and cotto fought an absolute prime version of pauli,, pauli has alot of guts, but if broner was a true p4p elite guy he would have beaten him easily..

                  floyd, manny, danny, bradley, jmm, would have all made easy work of pauli, broner didnt........

                  When dealing with young talents, i look to see if they blowout hand picked opponents,,, oscar did it, tito did it, jermaine taylor even did it,, this was a showcase fight for broner, and he failed miserable by making it a competitive fight,, broner won clearly but had way too tough of a time with pauli........ it would be like taylor having a rough time with joppy, or cotto going a tough 12 with pinto,

                  Broner is a good fighter no doubt,, but he isnt the next big thing IMO,,, struggling with ponce and pauli doesnt make me think he is the next floyd,,, floyd fought genaro and manfredy at broner's age and crushed them,,,,

                  broner, much like canelo, hasnt impressed me enough to think they are the next big thing,,, GGG and mikey garcia have been destroying fighters, not elite guys but blowing guys out they are suppose to blow out,,,,, broner has not done that yet,, good fighter but def not the next p4p king
                  Paulie is no easy out for anyone. Khan and Hatton stopped him, but Paulie took Cotto's best, so what does that say about Cotto's power when two lesser guys with lesser power than Cotto stopped Paulie?

                  Nothing.

                  The Paulie fight was not a showcase fight. Fans knew that the fight would go down just as it did. The fight was close early until Paulie decided to move.

                  We might differ on Broner, so we will just wait and see.

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                  • Frank Ducketts
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Cuban Linx
                    It's your list, but clearly you rate Kessler way higher than I do.

                    Froch's best win was against Bute.

                    He looked terrible against Jermain Taylor, Glen Johnson and Andre Dirrell (who he got a gift decision over).

                    Obviously he got out classed by Ward. There's not shame in that, because Ward is no.2 P4P.

                    I respect Froch, because he's willing to fight anyone. But in comparison to other P4P fighters, he's not as skilled as they are.
                    Froch's best win is Bute, lmao. Look at the guys you just named. Froch beat all of those guys. He fought them, and beat them. He doesn't have to be as skilled as the other pfp guys. Froch has a unique style, and he's tough to beat. He didn't receive a gift over Dirrell. He did a lil bit more than Dirrell. I had no problem with Froch beating Dirrell.

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                    • Sugar Adam Ali
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Frank Ducketts
                      Paulie is no easy out for anyone. Khan and Hatton stopped him, but Paulie took Cotto's best, so what does that say about Cotto's power when two lesser guys with lesser power than Cotto stopped Paulie?

                      Nothing.

                      The Paulie fight was not a showcase fight. Fans knew that the fight would go down just as it did. The fight was close early until Paulie decided to move.

                      We might differ on Broner, so we will just wait and see.
                      We will wait and see, but if you think meldrick taylor was overrated, then i dont see anyway you can possible think broner is an elite fighter,,

                      I will agree that the jury is still out on broner,,, but so far he has not impressed me enough to say he is a legit p4p fighter,,,, his best win was the demarco fight, and that was a great performance but demarco is no world beater,,, watch and see broner will have his ups in his career but he will also have his downs,,,
                      Maidana is a great test, i favor broner, but i dont think he is the next hopkins, floyd, jones,
                      He will be just like meldrick, jermain taylor, dawson,, were he will have some great wins and accomplishments but he will never be p4p elite like floyd, hopkins, jmm, etc

                      Im out for the night,,, y'all have a goodnight

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