The Pac that fought Bradley and Marquez was lazy

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  • turnedup
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    #21
    You can't coast against bradley, boxers should be on alert now. Bradley steals rounds. A guy like Bradley needs to be pressured the entire round, I think Provodnikov had decent success because he pressured so much and while yes Bradley changed his style a bit for that fight much of what happened in his fight was Ruslan was because Ruslan goaded him into a firefight. Much like Khan when he gets tagged wants to go apeshht throwing punches, we saw in the marquez fight just like in the Ruslan fight that when tagged Bradley throws all caution to the wind and is very susceptible to damage when he does.

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    • Pacquiao'd
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      #22
      Originally posted by Augustane
      That's not what I meant.

      His movement and punch output has changed considerably after the Margarito fight.

      Even if he didn't look unbeatable, he used to always come in hard. If you compare the JMM 1&2 fights to JMM 3, you can see how Pacquiao is slower and lazier. He didn't move like he used to.

      It's not the styles, but the fighter. Pacquiao from the De La Hoya or Cotto fight would've given any fighter, boxer, or brawler, problems. Pacquiao from the Bradley fight wouldn't have beat Cotto (IMO).
      Because the marg fight was the last time he juiced

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      • HarvardBlue
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        #23
        I wouldn't say lazy but he is distracted. There is no way you can be a politician and focus on boxing. Not to mention his other distractions. Hopefully, he is more focused for Rios. If he loses to Rios or looks bad we can all agree the expiration date on his career is right around the corner.

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        • Reloaded
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          #24
          Ok let me adjust the list .

          Cramps
          Lost and found God
          Politics
          chook fights and whores
          Not motivated
          Distracted
          Lazy .

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            #25
            Yup and just as bane said to batman
            Victory has defeated you

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            • Skip Bayless
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              #26
              no he was just faced with boxers that showed more movement. in the bradley fight i dont think he had the stamina to go out and finish him. a prime pac would beat tim no doubt

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                #27
                Originally posted by Michael Paine
                Why you so butthurt you try to turn a thread into a Mayweather conversation. Just shows you know what i say is true.
                lmao you got told by Hectari and then came back with a childish comment



                amazing how you floyd fans are total hypocrites, when you get exposed, you resort to posting rubbish.


                anyway on topic

                it has nothing to do with his motivation, it has everything to do with him being lazy, it is simple really, pac is past his prime, even though he still is, he beat bradley easily but because he was not a monster, the idiots gave bradley the round he survived in not realising pac is still outlanding and classing him. same with the marquez 3 imo pac won that for sure but because he was not the same beast, everyone gave 60-40 rounds that were in pacs favour to marquez

                his conditioning is not the same, he refuses to do swimming and only does a bit of running, the guy needs a rocket up his ass to get his stamina back

                his footmovement and punch output that has declined is all linked to his stamina

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                • lfc19titles
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by sk819
                  no he was just faced with boxers that showed more movement. in the bradley fight i dont think he had the stamina to go out and finish him. a prime pac would beat tim no doubt
                  past his prime pac beat tim no doubt, I hate it when people make it seem like he actually lost to tim and was not robbed

                  lets put it this way, pac beat tim more clearly than floyd beat canelo, in fact pac and tim was like pac vs mosley a lot of the time, it was that one sided

                  also cotto does have good inside movement, and if you say pac has faced guys with no movement then floyd is the same

                  the point you are correct on is the stamina comment, pac has lost his desire to train hard to be at his best, he is taking shortcuts clearly

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                  • lfc19titles
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Reloaded
                    Ok let me adjust the list .

                    Cramps
                    Lost and found God
                    Politics
                    chook fights and whores
                    Not motivated
                    Distracted
                    Lazy .

                    almost as long as floyds excuses to not fight pac

                    1-14 days
                    2-no ermm 7 days now!
                    3-you will accept 7? ok 3
                    4-good that you accepted 3 but now its no cut off
                    5-you accept the no cut off? ermm i need to go on vacation
                    6-urmm despite your ppv numbers increasing, no 50-50 now, more like 70-30
                    7-you will accept a lower pay deal now? fcker leave top rank and fight for me 3 times, then we will fight

                    humanity: da fuq....

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                    • Skip Bayless
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by lfc19titles
                      past his prime pac beat tim no doubt, I hate it when people make it seem like he actually lost to tim and was not robbed

                      lets put it this way, pac beat tim more clearly than floyd beat canelo, in fact pac and tim was like pac vs mosley a lot of the time, it was that one sided

                      also cotto does have good inside movement, and if you say pac has faced guys with no movement then floyd is the same

                      the point you are correct on is the stamina comment, pac has lost his desire to train hard to be at his best, he is taking shortcuts clearly
                      i actually picked tim to beat pac but watching the fight was shocked he got the decision. pac won clearly but my point is a prime pac would have gone for the kill instead of coasting and leaving doubt. in a rematch at this point in time if pac can beat rios i think tim would beat him. you have to remember tim was fighting on 1 leg of majority of the fight so in a rematch he would use even more movement

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