Since when did Bradley become Fast?

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  • New England
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    #21
    i wouldnt neccessarily call him fast, but he's an athletic fighter. he moves well.

    it's being brought up because he'll be best suited to use his legs. bradley's speed relative to marquez' will be a huge advantage. it may be his only advantage.

    he's faster than marquez, for sure. marquez' legs have been slowing for years now. in his prime he used them a bit. today he's taking small steps and almost always flat footed.

    bradley's legs will cause marquez problems. before the pacqauio / provodnikov fights i would have picked bradley on pts. today i am shading marquez to put his punches together down the stretch and stop bradley in a war.


    this fight might be a flat out war. bradley might get his work done and win with his legs, but if he cannot it's going to be a hellacious fight.



    if bradley's "speed" [movement] isn't enough to beat marquez, he's getting knocked out.
    Last edited by New England; 10-09-2013, 05:04 PM.

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    • pistol whip
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      #22
      Originally posted by Money Team.
      This fight depends on how Bradley fights..Jmm can not deal with movement and needs to to come forward to be at his best..Bradley can make this a boring fight and win easily..but if he tries to brawl then Juan will eat him alive...
      Can't deal with movement? What in the Blue Hell are you talking about? He fought pac 4 ***ing times if there is any one that moves offensively better then anyone else in boxing it's Pac! Oh you must be referring to the loss to floyd right? First of all this isn't a ***ing Floyd thread so please don't bring that boring mother***er up in my threads!! Make your own threads about Floyd not in mine. Second bradley is nowhere near as gifted as Floyd so yeah not a very good analogy sir! Im not sure if you are very familiar with Marquez but prior to Pac he took a lot of heat for being a boring fighter so no I really think turning this into a tactical fight is all wrong for Bradley. He's not the tactician that Marquez is in any way shape or form.

      Seriously dude you sound like you have never seen juan fight like ever!

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      • T18Z
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        #23
        Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
        So are you saying jmm doesnt get punched in the face,,,,

        diaz didnt rock him early

        katsidis didnt knock him down

        manny didnt make rock him every fight

        casamoyer didnt punch him and have him in a dog fight till jmm outfought him down the stretch

        MAB didnt rock him and drop jmm


        Where is JMM's great defensive performances... vs Likar ramos..

        Please tell me the big fight where jmm didnt get punched in the face....
        Please name me some fights where he was a defensive wizard and didnt get busted in the face a few times... Please name some
        Good post.

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          #24
          Damn there seems to be no hype for this fight, i almost forgot it was coming up saturday i don't think the numbers will reflect it but i think this will be a great fight with juan winning.

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            #25
            Originally posted by SoggyLungs
            not my fault that marquez hired a known steroid chemist and showed rapid improvement in his body and power at such a late age
            Yet he passed all the tests and will pass the advanced one he's been taking this whole time. Let me ask you something who was Marquez's strength and conditioning coach before Heredia?

            And like I said before it would be the dumbest thing in the world for Marquez to be so obvious about taking steroids that an Autistic person like yourself could figure it all out LOL!!! Don't you think he would do a better job f hiding it? LOL!!!!

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            • pistol whip
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              #26
              Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
              So are you saying jmm doesnt get punched in the face,,,,

              diaz didnt rock him early

              katsidis didnt knock him down

              manny didnt make rock him every fight

              casamoyer didnt punch him and have him in a dog fight till jmm outfought him down the stretch

              MAB didnt rock him and drop jmm


              Where is JMM's great defensive performances... vs Likar ramos..

              Please tell me the big fight where jmm didnt get punched in the face....
              Please name me some fights where he was a defensive wizard and didnt get busted in the face a few times... Please name some
              Oh my god a boxer getting hit in the face Nooooooo Wayyyyyyyyy that has never ever happened in the history of Boxing. Marquez got Knocked down over the course of 50 + fights oh my god no way!!!!!!!! He must have been the first fighter like ever to get knocked down!!!!!!


              Thats how exaggerated you sound!!! Im not saying Marquez is a defensive wizard and when you fight World Class fighters that stuff happens. But if you want to talk about defensive liabilities lets talk Provodnikov having Bradley out on his feet 3 times in his last fight LOL!!!

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                #27
                Originally posted by illmaticfighter
                Damn there seems to be no hype for this fight, i almost forgot it was coming up saturday i don't think the numbers will reflect it but i think this will be a great fight with juan winning.


                i'm not happy that i have to pay so much f#Cking money for it, but this will be a great fight.

                i just can't see it not delivering, given the provodnikov fight.

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                • Sugar Adam Ali
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by pistol whip
                  Oh my god a boxer getting hit in the face Nooooooo Wayyyyyyyyy that has never ever happened in the history of Boxing. Marquez got Knocked down over the course of 50 + fights oh my god no way!!!!!!!! He must have been the first fighter like ever to get knocked down!!!!!!


                  Thats how exaggerated you sound!!! Im not saying Marquez is a defensive wizard and when you fight World Class fighters that stuff happens. But if you want to talk about defensive liabilities lets talk Provodnikov having Bradley out on his feet 3 times in his last fight LOL!!!
                  Thats all fine and dandy, but you called me a dummy for saying that jmm gets hit in the face alot, and bradley would be able to hit him,,, jmm is no speedster, he just has great determination and the best counter combos in all of boxing,,, if you attack him, you can land, but be prepared for the hellstorm of combos that follows....

                  Jmm is the best fighter since prime chavez to be able to take a shot and then deliver his own more powerful shot....

                  And yes jmm has the heart and guts of gatti, but is just way more skilled,,

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                  • soul_survivor
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
                    So are you saying jmm doesnt get punched in the face,,,,

                    diaz didnt rock him early

                    katsidis didnt knock him down

                    manny didnt make rock him every fight

                    casamoyer didnt punch him and have him in a dog fight till jmm outfought him down the stretch

                    MAB didnt rock him and drop jmm


                    Where is JMM's great defensive performances... vs Likar ramos..

                    Please tell me the big fight where jmm didnt get punched in the face....
                    Please name me some fights where he was a defensive wizard and didnt get busted in the face a few times... Please name some
                    hahahahaha you went in HARD

                    But you're right, JMM isn't a defensive wizard, what he is great at is counterpunching and timing opponents. You don't have to be full on defence like Pea or Floyd do be a great technical boxer, JMM is a great technical boxer...who likes going to war. He's Mexican, what more do people expect?

                    In terms of Bradley being fast, he has pretty decent handspeed and solid reflexes but he isn't a speed demon ala Pacquiao or RJJ etc. What Bradley does is what JMM does, they are both good counterpunchers who have sound fundamentals yet both like to go to war. This fight will be fun, whoever wins.

                    I am a JMM fan and I've come to like Bradley, both men give fans their money's worth. I reckon Bradley wins because he is younger, faster than Marquez and has the better back foot game when he needs to use it. With JMM in Hulk mode, if Bradley goes to war, he will get rocked and possibly stopped but if he maintains his cool, he can outbox Marquez, especially in the championship rounds.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Money Team.
                      Juan has great timing and is a great counter puncher..but his foot speed is like he is walking in cement
                      i think only reason he was sluggish in the 4th fight is because he packed on more muscle to his upper body..

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