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  • WESS
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    #31
    Originally posted by hectari
    LMAO dude it was 3 million, not 300 million thats a load of bull it wasn't even the hottest search in china on that day so its BS.

    Zou Shiming is not a star and boxing is not big in China, it was banned for years, and is only now coming back but the problem is no Chinese care about it, they care more about kobe bryant and yao ming and jeremy lin and basketball.
    That dude just trolls and spits lies pertaining to Mayweather and Pac hoping someone will copy and paste it. He's been shut down several times. The original check hooks was a hell of a lot better than this ****tard. This current check hooks is a long lost descendent of "bombs" who got badly embarrassed and then eventually banned.

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    • WESS
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      #32
      Originally posted by hectari
      I don't know about that dude. there have been a lot of exciting fighters but none recently as famous or loved as pacman. Its more than fighting style man, people have to find that person appealing to them.
      Thats because of the picture Bob Arum painted of Pac and the super human death fighters he supposedly was getting in the ring with. Casuals love a good story and Bob painted a perfect one several years ago for Pac. Tie that into Floyd being mr bad guy and Pac being mr nice guy. It sells.

      However nobody buys into that BS anymore. Actually casuals, not die hard fans but casuals are starting to think he's losing now because he doesn't do PEDS anymore. That and ironically, JMM is supposedly on them. Which flips there entire logic about why Floyd demanded blood testing years ago.

      Right or wrong a large amount of casuals are starting to see why PEDS are a problem and when doing so they question why Pac made such a big deal about it years ago. People that don't watch boxing know about the blood issues.

      In the meantime Bob is trying to find fighters who will have to move up in weight and will make Pac look good. JMM 3 was supposed to be a continuation of Mayweather JMM where JMM looked like garbage. The Bradley fight was supposed to be an easy one vs a guy who can't punch. Back to back fails so now they pick a mini plaster less Margario styled fighter.

      This will bring back the hype. I think Pac will look exceptional in it. People will over rate the win to hype the next fight. Like Bob has said, it's not about fighting the best but making entertainment. People love entertainment if there is a good story. That's where Bob comes in.

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      • Detroit29
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        #33
        It wont matter how many buys this does because arum wont share the numbers or hell inflaye them.

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        • BoxingFollower
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          #34
          Originally posted by WESS
          Thats because of the picture Bob Arum painted of Pac and the super human death fighters he supposedly was getting in the ring with. Casuals love a good story and Bob painted a perfect one several years ago for Pac. Tie that into Floyd being mr bad guy and Pac being mr nice guy. It sells.

          However nobody buys into that BS anymore. Actually casuals, not die hard fans but casuals are starting to think he's losing now because he doesn't do PEDS anymore. That and ironically, JMM is supposedly on them. Which flips there entire logic about why Floyd demanded blood testing years ago.

          Right or wrong a large amount of casuals are starting to see why PEDS are a problem and when doing so they question why Pac made such a big deal about it years ago. People that don't watch boxing know about the blood issues.

          In the meantime Bob is trying to find fighters who will have to move up in weight and will make Pac look good. JMM 3 was supposed to be a continuation of Mayweather JMM where JMM looked like garbage. The Bradley fight was supposed to be an easy one vs a guy who can't punch. Back to back fails so now they pick a mini plaster less Margario styled fighter.

          This will bring back the hype. I think Pac will look exceptional in it. People will over rate the win to hype the next fight. Like Bob has said, it's not about fighting the best but making entertainment. People love entertainment if there is a good story. That's where Bob comes in.
          Well get ready because the media still feeds into this hype...Dan Rafeal, Skip Bayles and Stephen A Smith are already painting Rios as a tough fighter. Truth is, he's a smaller, slower, no plaster (less power) version of Margarito.

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          • HeroBando
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            #35
            Originally posted by WESS
            Thats because of the picture Bob Arum painted of Pac and the super human death fighters he supposedly was getting in the ring with. Casuals love a good story and Bob painted a perfect one several years ago for Pac. Tie that into Floyd being mr bad guy and Pac being mr nice guy. It sells.

            However nobody buys into that BS anymore. Actually casuals, not die hard fans but casuals are starting to think he's losing now because he doesn't do PEDS anymore. That and ironically, JMM is supposedly on them. Which flips there entire logic about why Floyd demanded blood testing years ago.

            Right or wrong a large amount of casuals are starting to see why PEDS are a problem and when doing so they question why Pac made such a big deal about it years ago. People that don't watch boxing know about the blood issues.

            In the meantime Bob is trying to find fighters who will have to move up in weight and will make Pac look good. JMM 3 was supposed to be a continuation of Mayweather JMM where JMM looked like garbage. The Bradley fight was supposed to be an easy one vs a guy who can't punch. Back to back fails so now they pick a mini plaster less Margario styled fighter.

            This will bring back the hype. I think Pac will look exceptional in it. People will over rate the win to hype the next fight. Like Bob has said, it's not about fighting the best but making entertainment. People love entertainment if there is a good story. That's where Bob comes in.
            RJJ also looked like a super human for a while. Are you saying that was all marketing, cause he spent the last few years getting ragdolled by bums?

            Now RJJ was juiced, so sounds like you're looking for another PED hero. No need to look beyond the GBP/Haymon crew, you know, ask for VADA and forget about the fight.

            http://www.thesweetscience.com/news/...-and-al-haymon

            Then there's this

            Referencing that issue, Dan Rafael of ESPN.com stated during a November 21, 2012, online chat, “I need to see proof before I accuse somebody of something so serious. What is fact, however, is that the settlement in the Pacquiao-Mayweather lawsuit happened after the Pacquiao camp tried to get Mayweather's USADA testing records. So maybe where there is smoke there is fire.”

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            • Hougigo
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              #36
              Originally posted by MDPopescu
              It was previously said an unit would cost about $1 and something...
              where'd you see that? Last article I read, iole and arum both said equivalent 5 dollars. Must've missed it, could you post a link? I can't search well on my phone, it sucks

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              • HeroBando
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                #37
                Originally posted by hougigo
                where'd you see that? Last article I read, iole and arum both said equivalent 5 dollars. Must've missed it, could you post a link? I can't search well on my phone, it sucks
                It was $5, and it's not happening yet.

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                • dynomyte1444
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by hectari
                  Arum giving some reasonable estimates.

                  I see the Marquez-Bradley doing just about 350-400k buys, its crazy how these two guys can beat Pacquiao and still not get a big name, I guess you have to have the IT factor a quality that just attracts people to you that Pacquiao has plus his fighting style.

                  The Pac vs. Rios ppv rate seems about right, I predict around 600k since it is in China and they will not spend much time promoting it in the states, if it does more or even hits a million buys that would be an amazing feat. It depends people could be curious to see if Pac can bounce back from the KO? but I figure the majority of fake casual boxing fans hopped off his wagon real quick once he got ko cold so who knows?
                  anyone know if this fight will be on at our regular time or is it on a delay?

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                  • hectari
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by WESS
                    That dude just trolls and spits lies pertaining to Mayweather and Pac hoping someone will copy and paste it. He's been shut down several times. The original check hooks was a hell of a lot better than this ****tard. This current check hooks is a long lost descendent of "bombs" who got badly embarrassed and then eventually banned.
                    Wait that isn't the original check hooks, who is the original check hooks and what happened to him?

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                    • WilkinsOlajuwon
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by dynomyte1444
                      anyone know if this fight will be on at our regular time or is it on a delay?
                      pac rios is at 11 AM in China

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