Floyd Sr. said if Floyd gets buckled by Pacquiao he will stop the fight

[damned1974]

So all of Floyd's much longer vacations were because he was ducking?

You know:
- "I'm going on a long vacation and don't plan to fight Manny"
- On Cotto trying to lure Floyd into a fight 2007/2008 "Not now, I want to focus on my Floyd promotions thingy"


Mosley had just fought his 2nd time in 2006 and had a planned vacation and said OK if Floyd delays the fight a few months BUT Floyd said NO! It goes to show you how much Floyd was interested in Mosley.

I'm just showing you that it works both ways...you cannot claim he ducked Mosely without considering that Mosely had done just that to him. You guys don't understand boxing politics...you just have agendas to live out.

Was it Floyd's fault that he couldn't get a prime Oscar, a prime Cotto,etc....no. In some situations he was the one who was "up and coming" as far as a boxing attraction-he couldn't demand the fight gets made-whereas Oscar could choose when the fight gets made and IF the fight gets made-see what I'm saying?

You guys point the finger at Floyd and take things out of context...I'm not saying he is some angel,but he is certainly not 100% at fault for a lot of these fights. Just because a fight doesn't get made,doesn't always make it a duck-it has to make the most sense at the time.It's amazing how Cotto was easily able to make the fight happen once he left Arum...

As far as the Pac fight-just because Pac may tell the public one thing,doesn't mean that the same thing is involved in negotiations. I have seen a lot of charades and posturing from Arum and Pac's side. Floyd has said some idiotic things as well...impossible to point the finger at one when thinking of the ridiculous statements from both sides throughout the years. In the end,only they know why the fights weren't made-not you.

[PAC-BOY]

How shot does Floyd want Pacquiao to be before he finally takes the fight?

either or.....



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surely nothing in between

[ADP02]

If Manny is so shot, then what's the point of Floyd even fighting him now? It'd just be downplay as another average win on the same level as the Guerrero, Ortiz, Baldomir, ect wins. He has nothing to gain from that fight anymore from a legacy standpoint. All he'd gain is a career-high guarantee payday. Manny will go down as one of the greatest ever lace them up, but back in 2009-2010 was the time when Floyd would've been able to enhanced his legacy and resume with a win over Manny.

I know it's too risky of a fight and i don't think he'll want to move up again, but I'd rather that Floyd try to win another title in six-division by taking on Martinez at 160lb or 158lb CW for the WBC Middleweight belt.

That is what Floyd likes to do, no? Fight them money fights not legacy fights.

[ADP02]

I'm just showing you that it works both ways...you cannot claim he ducked Mosely without considering that Mosely had done just that to him. You guys don't understand boxing politics...you just have agendas to live out.

Was it Floyd's fault that he couldn't get a prime Oscar, a prime Cotto,etc....no. In some situations he was the one who was "up and coming" as far as a boxing attraction-he couldn't demand the fight gets made-whereas Oscar could choose when the fight gets made and IF the fight gets made-see what I'm saying? You guys point the finger at Floyd and take things out of context...I'm not saying he is some angel,but he is certainly not 100% at fault for a lot of these fights. Just because a fight doesn't get made,doesn't always make it a duck-it has to make the most sense at the time.It's amazing how Cotto was easily able to make the fight happen once he left Arum...

The common denominator just happens to always be Floyd, that is why!

Cotto was easily made because by that time even some die-hard Cotto fans were not giving him much of a chance. It was a money fight for Floyd. If you can't see that then I can't help you.

You went hard on that "vacation" thing with Mosley but are kinda back-tracking because Floyd is king in that department! How can Mosley be "ducking" while saying "delay a few months and I'm OK with fighting Floyd". Why would Mosley continue to go on interviews requesting the Floyd fight from late 2006 to 2010? PLUS, there are interviews by Floyd himself that backs my statements that Floyd said NO to a Mosley fight ever time he was asked except once Mosley got old and inactive.

[damned1974]

That is what Floyd likes to do, no? Fight them money fights not legacy fights.

I think at this stage there is no reason to fight Manny-he has some serious rebuilding to his career to do before he jumps in the ring with a fighter the calibre of Floyd. On the other hand, Manny's sadistic fans would like to see him get mopped up and then complain how he wasn't prime...without considering that Floyd hasn't been prime for quite some time now.

[Jloro]

Would be a nice surprise if this was next

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Hes not scared you genius hes saying that Manny only can buckle Floyd on roids.

[rambov]

Hahahahahahaha

Hey is this some type of infomercial ?
Am I watching " Fox and Friends"

You guys are mad funny. Anybody need any lotion?

[Carpe Diem]

That is what Floyd likes to do, no? Fight them money fights not legacy fights.

I'm sure he'd love to earn his biggest career-high payday against Manny(vice versa), but I don't think he's at a point where he's desperate enough to want to work and give up equal control to Arum/Manny in order to obtain it. The only way i can see him get desperate enough to want to fight Manny is if Manny starts earning bigger guarantee payday than him, and i think he'd be offended enough to want to prove that he's superior than Manny and deserve to earn more than him.

[damned1974]

The common denominator just happens to always be Floyd, that is why!

Cotto was easily made because by that time even some die-hard Cotto fans were not giving him much of a chance. It was a money fight for Floyd. If you can't see that then I can't help you.

You went hard on that "vacation" thing with Mosley but are kinda back-tracking because Floyd is king in that department! How can Mosley be "ducking" while saying "delay a few months and I'm OK with fighting Floyd". Why would Mosley continue to go on interviews requesting the Floyd fight from late 2006 to 2010? PLUS, there are interviews by Floyd himself that backs my statements that Floyd said NO to a Mosley fight ever time he was asked except once Mosley got old and inactive.

I didn't go "hard" on the vacation thing-Mosely did. That's on youtube if you wanna see it.He never eluded to once throughout the whole interview that he wanted anything to do with Floyd-it was quite opposite.

Then Mosely enters the ring and begs for a fight with Mayweather after beating Marquez from a 2 year lay off,and the world is pressuring for the fight....Mayweather takes it,and beats him-THEN say that Shane is too old. This isn't new with fighters-it is difficult to get 2 prime fighters to fight eachother because it risks business-promoters have dumped time and money building a brand and then have to risk them....a lot of times the fighters have no real say so.

As for Cotto-there are plenty of interviews with Cotto refusing a fight.He didn't feel ready...is Floyd supposed to put his schedule on hold until they finally feel ready,or take good fights that make sense in the meantime? Sometimes you get one chance to make a fight happen,if you are lucky-then a few chances.Cotto left Arum and that fight was made-no way in hell it would have been made if Cotto was with Arum-no way. We all know that Arum has pretty much banned fighting anyone fighting golden boy promoted fighters.

I can point out a lot of reasons why Pac and Floyd would never fight eachother and they are all financial.
They both take a MASSIVE majority of the money against who they fight and would stand to make less than usual fighting each other-even at a 60/40 split. Businesswise, it is more profitable for Floyd to fight Cotto, Canelo, Shane, etc when they are willing to take about 10-20 percent as opposed to 40%...especially when they were or are relevant names at the time.

Also-there would be a big problem in promoting the event because Arum would want to promote it-as would golden boy. There would be big problems because of it.Most of the times the promoter is the one not making the mega fights happen so we as fans complain and point the finger at the fighters. If Floyd and Manny both say "we will fight who our team puts in front of us,then you would have to assume they are either lying or their team are the ones not making it happen.