Floyd Sr. said if Floyd gets buckled by Pacquiao he will stop the fight

[mathed]

Man, I can't stand Senior. Everhy other sentence dealing with testing and talking about Marquez not wanting a rematch. More like Senior doesn't want a rematch because he know Juan is on "the level" now and can pass those tests.

This old man just needs to pipe down, literally, put the pipe down.

[hectari]

Hes not scared you genius hes saying that Manny only can buckle Floyd on roids.

Actually the lady asked him before and he said if Pac takes the tests, and they make the fight happen, than he goes on to see but if Floyd gets buckled that he is su****ious and will stop the fight.
so basically he is saying even if Pac tests clean and takes the test if he hurts Floyd he thinks pac is on something.

so seriously no matter what pac does he is guilty in floyd sr eyes and he doesn't believe pac can hurt Floyd. This is called paranoia.

[damned1974]

If you look at some of Floyd's previous opponents of late, they have been very suspect.

- Ortiz quit against maidana and only fought once at WW. That was enough for Floyd.
- Guerrero got knocked down at the lower weights (his last fight there) and was easily being hit by Katsidis. Then was inactive then moved up several divisions and fought only twice. That was enough for Floyd.
- Canelo was green and required more time and experience. That was enough for Floyd.
- Marquez did nothing at 140 nor 147. That was enough for Floyd.
- Hatton fought once and looked very average at 147. That was enough for Floyd.

All that being said, Manny has to show us that he is still Manny of old or still has some resemblance of that ....

The thing is-Ortiz was coming off of a good win,beating the then undefeated Berto.

Marquez hasn't made much a splash outside of beating Manny-we will see if he can beat Bradley-if so,then it enhances the victory.

Hatton looked average AFTER Floyd as well in his own division at 140.

Canelo had his chance now,or probably wouldn't have enough time because Floyd only has a few fights left. He just came off of a great win against the undefeated Trout who is an awkward fighter.

Guerrero had been calling out Floyd for 2 years,beat up Berto, Aydin and proved he can be formidable at WW...he is a good fighter.

We can go through Pac's list as well and pick apart resumes...in fact,his looks worst because they are not coming off of good wins...in fact, several of Pac's opponents are only a few fights removed from BAD losses or ko's.

As fans,we will just have to appreciate the fights as long as they are against reasonable opposition.The rest is out of our hands.

Calling fighters green or moving up,etc...can just be a load of excuses because a lot of fighters have beaten champs while they were young and given a chance.The same as fighters giving a new weight class a try....this happens all the time,but what makes a fighter special is when they are able to pull it off.

[damned1974]

If you look at some of Floyd's previous opponents of late, they have been very suspect.

- Ortiz quit against maidana and only fought once at WW. That was enough for Floyd.
- Guerrero got knocked down at the lower weights (his last fight there) and was easily being hit by Katsidis. Then was inactive then moved up several divisions and fought only twice. That was enough for Floyd.
- Canelo was green and required more time and experience. That was enough for Floyd.
- Marquez did nothing at 140 nor 147. That was enough for Floyd.
- Hatton fought once and looked very average at 147. That was enough for Floyd.

All that being said, Manny has to show us that he is still Manny of old or still has some resemblance of that ....

Now all of that said,just because you say these opponents are marginalized as "good enough for Floyd", why hasn't Pac fought Canelo, Guerrero or Ortiz?

If you view them as substandard, then certainly you can make a case for a lot of Manny's opponents being even lower-especially when he had fought them.

What excuse would you have if Floyd and Manny fights and Pac loses? Will it be that Pac is a shot fighter, too old,too small, etc....it's not like Floyd is still prime. I think from where Floyd is at,these opponents were acceptable-maybe not the number one pick,but certainly good fights to take.

I agree with your last statement-which is why I wouldn't jump the gun by saying this fight should happen.

[hectari]

Lol, it's also funny how you fail to mention Floyd was on a decent lay off before fighting Marquez. Imagine if Floyd fought Marquez who was coming off a lay off, you'd be complaining about that too. There's a reason why Marquez fails to ever hint or insinuate he wants a rematch with Floyd ever again. He knows Floyd is stylistically wrong for him, EVERYONE does hence why you never see anyone speak seriously about Floyd-Marquez 2 and there obviously won't be an issue with weight now.

You also failed to remind us that Floyd failed to make weight for that fight, which is consider one of the cardinal sins of boxing.
So should Floyd get credit for the win?

[Spoon23]

Actually the lady asked him before and he said if Pac takes the tests, and they make the fight happen, than he goes on to see but if Floyd gets buckled that he is su****ious and will stop the fight.
so basically he is saying even if Pac tests clean and takes the test if he hurts Floyd he thinks pac is on something.

so seriously no matter what pac does he is guilty in floyd sr eyes and he doesn't believe pac can hurt Floyd. This is called paranoia.

lol good point. The excuses keeps coming and coming. This fight will never happen. Us fans are suckers too dream this can be a reality.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Lol, it's also funny how you fail to mention Floyd was on a decent lay off before fighting Marquez. Imagine if Floyd fought Marquez who was coming off a lay off, you'd be complaining about that too. There's a reason why Marquez fails to ever hint or insinuate he wants a rematch with Floyd ever again. He knows Floyd is stylistically wrong for him, EVERYONE does hence why you never see anyone speak seriously about Floyd-Marquez 2 and there obviously won't be an issue with weight now.

Name other fighters who took "decent" layoffs, and then had a "comeback" fight against a guy who was two divisions lower in his previous bout.

[damned1974]

Name other fighters who took "decent" layoffs, and then had a "comeback" fight against a guy who was two divisions lower in his previous bout.

Isn't it safe to say that Rios is the same..he is coming off of a loss and 2 divisions removed from his best...fighting a guy with nearly a year lay off....of course if Rios pulled a miracle,then we can use this as an excuse for Pac....it never really ends.

[damned1974]

You also failed to remind us that Floyd failed to make weight for that fight, which is consider one of the cardinal sins of boxing.
So should Floyd get credit for the win?

If you cannot see that style wise Floyd is a nightmare for Marquez,then you are blind, as even Marquez admits Floyd is too good for him. As for the weight issue-Manny failed to make weight 2 times....this happens to the best of them.

[damned1974]

Name other fighters who took "decent" layoffs, and then had a "comeback" fight against a guy who was two divisions lower in his previous bout.

Hell, Roy fought Pazienza for christs sake and RJ didn't even have a lay off! If you believe Floyd struggles with JMM at this stage,why doesn't JMM agree with you?

In fact, how many times has Floyd fought guys bigger than him on the night of the fight???? Almost all the time.