Which is the greater achievement by Pacquiao or Floyd?

[The Big Dunn]

Fight number 2 was 32-32 with the remainder a draw. Fight 3 was 57-51 for Marquez, so yes you're wrong on both accounts. The majority did not see Marquez winning the 2nd fight, nor did the 'overwhelming' majority have fight 3 for Marquez whatsoever.

that's the 3rd your on about, just checked boxrec
2nd fight is 32-32

I thought fightscore had threads on both that showed the press row scoring. Well then I was wrong. So I will amend what I posted with this information.

The writers/media had the 2nd fight a draw and the slight majority had JMM winning the third. WHile that makes things closer we still have floyd with 3 clear victories and Manny with 2 disputed ones-just not as disputed to the degree that I originally said.

It still comes down to the JMM wins.

[Maffia240]

What do you think would happen if Mayweather fought guys like Barrera or Morales? The fight would be a ****ing joke. Mayweather would KO those guys at the lower weights.

Can your really compare Morales or Barrera to someone like Corrales or Alvarez? Legacy wise they are good but in terms who is harder to beat then they are complete ****. Corrales would KO them both.

Mayweather = Much tougher fights

Manny = Good names

[DeadLikeMe]

At this point, Floyd has passed Pacquiao on the ATG list. Pacquiao has done very little with the last 3-4 years of his career while Floyd has increased his activity. Not every place is a cesspool of delusion like NSB is, most other boxing forums seem to rate Floyd higher than Pac at this point. Public opinion has swung very favorably towards Floyd compared to 09/10 as evidenced by that ESPN Sportsnation Poll that ranked Floyd as a Top 5 ATG in the eyes of casuals. If "everyone will remember Fraud is a ducking coward" like so many of the Manny fanboys on here want to desperately believe, would the casuals be ranking Floyd as a Top 5 ATG? I don't think so.

One guy's fight just broke the PPV and Live Gate record, the other is fighting on Zou Shiming's undercard in friggin China. To quote Floyd, "You can't eat legacy."

[The Big Dunn]

At this point, Floyd has passed Pacquiao on the ATG list. Pacquiao has done very little with the last 3-4 years of his career while Floyd has increased his activity. Not every place is a cesspool of delusion like NSB is, most other boxing forums seem to rate Floyd higher than Pac at this point. Public opinion has swung very favorably towards Floyd compared to 09/10 as evidenced by that ESPN Sportsnation Poll that ranked Floyd as a Top 5 ATG in the eyes of casuals. If "everyone will remember Fraud is a ducking coward" like so many of the Manny fanboys on here want to desperately believe, would the casuals be ranking Floyd as a Top 5 ATG? I don't think so.

One guy's fight just broke the PPV and Live Gate record, the other is fighting on Zou Shiming's undercard in friggin China. To quote Floyd, "You can't eat legacy."

[illmaticfighter]

Hatton and canelo were both the product of smart matchmaking. Also, hatton was not that great really. His signiture win is over a semiretired well past prime Tzysu. Canelo, we still don't know how good he really is or is not. Pacs wins much better.

can't you say the same thing for morales??

why shi5 on hatton's win but not pac's

[hhs661]

Barrera > Corrales > Hatton > JMM(even with no clear decisive win over JMM) > Canelo > Morales

Those Morales wins are overrated as hell. The dude was done, lost 4 in a row including 2 to Manny. I'd put the JMM wins ahead but I didn't have JMM losing two of those fights at all. IMO, I don't even know if he lost one.

The MAB win is the best of the bunch but I'd put Floyd slightly ahead on this one

[Deevel916]

Fight number 2 was 32-32 with the remainder a draw. Fight 3 was 57-51 for Marquez, so yes you're wrong on both accounts. The majority did not see Marquez winning the 2nd fight, nor did the 'overwhelming' majority have fight 3 for Marquez whatsoever.

I have it at 2-2 with pac taking the first 2 and Jmm taking the 3rd and 4th. Fight 2 was close but the deciding factor was the kd that pac scored on Jmm. If not for a scoring error Pac would have officially won their first fight.

[HeroBando]

What do you think would happen if Mayweather fought guys like Barrera or Morales? The fight would be a ****ing joke. Mayweather would KO those guys at the lower weights.

Can your really compare Morales or Barrera to someone like Corrales or Alvarez? Legacy wise they are good but in terms who is harder to beat then they are complete ****. Corrales would KO them both.

Mayweather = Much tougher fights

Manny = Good names

Are you fcuking ******ed? Do you know about weight classes? Lateef Kayode KO1 Corrales, Alvarez.

[Ghazan]

Are you fcuking ******ed? Do you know about weight classes? Lateef Kayode KO1 Corrales, Alvarez.

LOL dont take him seriously..cant you see he's trolling

[Augustane]

At this point, Floyd has passed Pacquiao on the ATG list. Pacquiao has done very little with the last 3-4 years of his career while Floyd has increased his activity. Not every place is a cesspool of delusion like NSB is, most other boxing forums seem to rate Floyd higher than Pac at this point. Public opinion has swung very favorably towards Floyd compared to 09/10 as evidenced by that ESPN Sportsnation Poll that ranked Floyd as a Top 5 ATG in the eyes of casuals. If "everyone will remember Fraud is a ducking coward" like so many of the Manny fanboys on here want to desperately believe, would the casuals be ranking Floyd as a Top 5 ATG? I don't think so.

One guy's fight just broke the PPV and Live Gate record, the other is fighting on Zou Shiming's undercard in friggin China. To quote Floyd, "You can't eat legacy."

Pacquiao has essentially run out of opponents. He's also had a longer career and bigger names.

Mayweather, while doing spectacular right now, is running out of solid HOF and ATG names to put underneath his belt.

Pacquiao secured his lead from 2003-2011. Mayweather's inactivity lost him legacy-wise, when we look back 20 years from now. Honestly - what good names does Mayweather have left to put under his belt?