Which is the greater achievement by Pacquiao or Floyd?

[D4thincarnation]

Pacquaio beating the three Mexican greats Barrera,Morales and Marquez twice each.

FMJ beating the undefeated Corrales,Hatton,Alvarez with ease.

Which is the greater achievement?

Pacquiao and it ain't even close

[RawDawgHasSpokn]

If you go off the question asked alone...I'd have to say Manny, but that's because Rickey Hatton's name automatically deducts 1000 points from any argument.

Just another thread to fuel the animosity between the factions.

[T18Z]

Morales was after Raheem beat him. Manny beat 4-7 morales not 48-2 morales. Canelo was clearly in over his head. Barrera wins are great, as are corrales and hatton streak enders.

Depends on how you view the JMM wins. Manny got both official judgements, but most writers/media had JMM winning both fights, especially the third where the overwhelming majority had JMM winning. All of floyd's wins were clear and dominant, and Corrales was slightly favored to win.

If you believe manny won both JMM fights I'd say the accomplishments are equal. If not, then its hard to argue beating those 3 undefeated fighters isn't better than going 4-2 in 6 fights, all of which you were favored to win.

You have no proof for your statements regarding opinions on Pacquaio vs Marquez. You claim overwhelming majority with no proof. Shall I link you the press scores, or are tou only willing to make statements that agree with your point of view?

The victories Pacquaio ovet Marquez are exactly that, they are not even close to an example of a robbery, that would be Bradley vs Pacquaio. This discussion is essentiallu a rhetorical question, the answer in thos situation can only be Pacquaio, to argue different is ridiculous.

[The Big Dunn]

You have no proof for your statements regarding opinions on Pacquaio vs Marquez. You claim overwhelming majority with no proof. Shall I link you the press scores, or are tou only willing to make statements that agree with your point of view?

The victories Pacquaio ovet Marquez are exactly that, they are not even close to an example of a robbery, that would be Bradley vs Pacquaio. This discussion is essentiallu a rhetorical question, the answer in thos situation can only be Pacquaio, to argue different is ridiculous.

the press row scoring in both fights had JMM winning I believe. If you show me I am wrong, I will freely admit it. The 2nd fight was 57-51- 36 (draws). The 3rd fight was significantly higher. If you have a problem with the words I used, I dont give a ****.

I neve used the word robbery nor implied it, so stop taking what I said to the extreme to argue it back down to the middle.

Sorry, but I see it differently. Manny's wins score higher on the name recognition scale, no question. But beating the shell of a once great fighter in erik and winning 2 questionable victories over JMM (again the unbiased, objective meda scores not made up NSB polls) does not exceed what floyd did.

[Deevel916]

Really Barrera was not in his prime? because he was on the best winning run of his career.. had beaten Morales and Hamed with ease..and was the #2 p4p

Not only that but also in the manner of how he won. Barrera's corner man had to jump in the ring while crying in order to stop the onslaught.

[bopbopbbe]

Pacquiao and its not even close. Canelo, hatton, and corralles dont even belong in the same sentence as morales, barrera, and marquez. Being undefeated doesnt mean ****, it just means uve been matched well throughout ur career.


Mayweathers resume is weak and has always been about who he DIDNT fight.

[Maffia240]

The former obviously. Hatton was a 140lber and Alvarez was light on resume and catch-weighted.

Alvarez was 22 yrs old and he made 153 against Trout. All he had to do was loose 1lb more than he did in his last fight and then he could hydrate up to 169 against a ****ing welterweight who can still fight at light welterweight. Dumbass

[low_Bo]

Hatton and canelo were both the product of smart matchmaking. Also, hatton was not that great really. His signiture win is over a semiretired well past prime Tzysu. Canelo, we still don't know how good he really is or is not. Pacs wins much better.

[T18Z]

the press row scoring in both fights had JMM winning I believe. If you show me I am wrong, I will freely admit it. The 2nd fight was 57-51- 36 (draws). The 3rd fight was significantly higher. If you have a problem with the words I used, I dont give a ****.

I neve used the word robbery nor implied it, so stop taking what I said to the extreme to argue it back down to the middle.

Sorry, but I see it differently. Manny's wins score higher on the name recognition scale, no question. But beating the shell of a once great fighter in erik and winning 2 questionable victories over JMM (again the unbiased, objective meda scores not made up NSB polls) does not exceed what floyd did.

Fight number 2 was 32-32 with the remainder a draw. Fight 3 was 57-51 for Marquez, so yes you're wrong on both accounts. The majority did not see Marquez winning the 2nd fight, nor did the 'overwhelming' majority have fight 3 for Marquez whatsoever.

[SplitSecond]

the press row scoring in both fights had JMM winning I believe. If you show me I am wrong, I will freely admit it. The 2nd fight was 57-51- 36 (draws). The 3rd fight was significantly higher. If you have a problem with the words I used, I dont give a ****.

I neve used the word robbery nor implied it, so stop taking what I said to the extreme to argue it back down to the middle.

Sorry, but I see it differently. Manny's wins score higher on the name recognition scale, no question. But beating the shell of a once great fighter in erik and winning 2 questionable victories over JMM (again the unbiased, objective meda scores not made up NSB polls) does not exceed what floyd did.

that's the 3rd your on about, just checked boxrec
2nd fight is 32-32

i could never understand how so many had marquez winning the second or screamed robbery though, close fight an all, but pacquiao won it

although mexicans are extremely nationalistic