Anyone here still thinks Joe Louis beats Wlad?

[crold1]

I haven't seen many Louis bouts, but I'm not sure if he could cope with being clinched 20 times a round.

He wouldn't just let himself be clinched. Who the hell is training Povetkin that they didn't say "the next time he leans on your neck, throw a body shot that lands right on his cup. Keep doing it until he stops. Stand up hard and throw a shoulder into his mouth or the back of your head into his face. Bring the forearm up and mash him in the grill when he falls forward."

Etc.

Unreal. Pabon ****** but if you get fouled silly all night and do nothing to pay it back, you need someone to train you on the finer points of pro fighting. Like Wlad went and got from Steward.

[tyger]

Louis wins inside three rounds!

[KO'er]

I think Louis would beat Grabimir Clinchcko.

Joe hit very hard, had great combo's and perfect technique. Plus the Brown Bomber beat bigger men like Max Baer, so he showed he could get the bigger guys out.

As soon as a bomb landed on Grabimir's chin, Grabimir would hit the canvas. He'd try to get up and lean on Joe, but Joe would dispose of him with haste.

[edgarg]

Louis was tall enough, and in any case opponents with big height and weight advantages didn't bother him at all; he was too technically skilled to allow himself to submit meekly to the Klitschko tactics we just saw. Klitschko would be forced to actively grapple and desperately hold onto Louis and would eventually have been DQ. (something like Bonecrusher Smith/Tyson, but much worse). Louis could easily reach Klitschko's chin. He KO'd Buddy Baer in the seventh and first rds, and Baer was about Klitschko's size, and a better than average boxer too. Abe Simon was a bigger guy too and he KO'd him twice also.

Louis also had a very good inside game, (by today's standards) which was common in those days; it was all part of usual boxing skills. He was also a devastating short puncher, needing little space to execute. Louis would have figured out how to get to Klitschko, and it was probably already a part of his capabilities.

Just my opinion, although I like Klitschko.

[edgarg]

I think Louis would beat Grabimir Clinchcko.

Joe hit very hard, had great combo's and perfect technique. Plus the Brown Bomber beat bigger men like Max Baer, so he showed he could get the bigger guys out.

As soon as a bomb landed on Grabimir's chin, Grabimir would hit the canvas. He'd try to get up and lean on Joe, but Joe would dispose of him with haste.

Max Baer was just about the same size and weight as louis. You must be thinking of his brother Buddy. I used to see him in movies of ancient Rome, always playing the faithful slave or something like that. He seemed huge.

[aaron.king]

I haven't seen many Louis bouts, but I'm not sure if he could cope with being clinched 20 times a round.

Louis was a very manly man. He might have been taken off his game by all the hugging and cheek-to-cheek contact.

[Godsfly]

Imagine it...

Wald take a frightful hop backwards, falls forward to clinch. Louis times it and lands the right down the pipe.

The end.

Wlad probably beats every other pre-Liston Heavyweight champ in history. Louis is the outlier.

i don't even think he beats jack johnson.

johnson was much stronger physical & tougher then wlad..those guys would have made wlad quit. wlad has a very low tolerance of pain & a weak heart.........

the only people that think their watching something special are nut huggers or 12 year olds who are too young to know what a talented heavyweight looks like.

[Cactus Jack]

If a mediocre **** made joe louis his interracial wife imagine what Wlad would do

[PeterinMI]

Joe Louis was 6'2", 215 lbs., too small to escape the hug of death.

This. But with todays training he might have been a healthy 225. Still small though. Even so I have a hard, hard time saying anyone would walk away from a prime Louis with a sure victory.

[PeterinMI]

i don't even think he beats jack johnson.

johnson was much stronger physical & tougher then wlad..those guys would have made wlad quit. wlad has a very low tolerance of pain & a weak heart.........

the only people that think their watching something special are nut huggers or 12 year olds who are too young to know what a talented heavyweight looks like.

I happen to think Jack Johnson is the most overlooked great Heavyweight ever. Jack would shred the ranks today with little doubt in my mind. I know he was even smaller than Louis but he was the man. Heck at 200 (his normal fighting weight) imagine the havoc he would create anywhere between Light Heavy and Heavy!