Comments Thread For: Wladimir Klitschko-Alexander Povetkin: Pre-Report Card

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  • Slowhand
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    #11
    Originally posted by iNorton
    Ouch, sorry... am I hurting your feelings? You can cry on my shoulder if you want to
    No feelings involved here, just common sense. Have you even heard of such a thing you ****** child..?

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    • iNorton
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      #12
      Originally posted by Slowhand
      No feelings involved here...
      Then why so much of butthurt? Russians are pigs by definition - this is not an insult, but a statement of fact.

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      • Heru
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        #13
        Forget about the speed, power, strength, technique, defense, experience, intelligence, and timing advantages that Wlad has over Povetkin...

        If people are expecting Povetkin to try to press Wlad... He will try... and fail miserably.

        Wlad's ring generalship is second to none (in the Heavyweight division at least). Unless his opponent is physically stronger than him and mentally strong enough to establish his will, Wlad immediately takes center ring, presses his opponents, and refuses to give ground for more than the longevity of his opponents' short offensive bursts, then uses his footwork to get back to center ring and continue to press the fight. Povetkin might prefer to be the fighter pressing the fight, but there are several fights where he gives ground to his opponents and boxes outside of his preference because it's his opponent's will.

        How is Povetkin going to react when the person he prepared to press refuses to allow it and presses him in turn?

        Is he going to continue spending enormous amounts of his energy trying to press the fight and finding that his offensive attacks are unsuccessful or is he going to allow himself to be pressed and find that his offensive attacks are unsuccessful?

        If he tries to press the fight, he's going to find it nearly impossible to get inside because of Wlad's jab (that will turn into stiff arm if need be), timing and footwork (he times his opponents advances extremely well and uses his excellent foot speed and footwork out of harm's way and back to where he wants to be); on rare occasion, he'll also launch a counter cross. If he chooses to let Wlad press the fight (the option so many opponents are forced to choose), he'll be dominated at the end of the jab, right cross, and left hook until he's had enough.

        Either choice Povetkin chooses spells disaster for him because he lacks the tools to deal with Wlad.

        Luis "Nobody throw, nobody throw" Pabon is not going to be a factor except for breaking clinches, where Wlad will outmuscle and lean on Alexander tiring him further (Povetkin might be able to do some ineffective body work in the clinch, but he's going to lose more than he gains there).

        And as aggressive as Wlad has been since the Wach fight, I wouldn't be surprised if he stops him before the 4th, but giving Povetkin's toughness and slightly improved conditioning the benefit of the doubt, I'll say Wlad KO6.

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        • crold1
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          #14
          Originally posted by Mikhnienko
          Very good analysis Cliff. I read the RING predictions and of the 18 supposed experts only you and one other put any real thought into it. Everyone else was "he looked bad against Huck and is 4 inches shorter" with comments that weren't worth the 30 seconds it took them to type it.
          I was THIS close to picking him outright. I was down on Povetkin a long time for ducking Wlad the last time after starting high on him. I like this fight. If Wlad wins impressively, he deserves credit for it.

          And most of the Huck analysis is just lazy. Huck is a good fighter and completely different from Wlad.
          Last edited by crold1; 10-05-2013, 07:20 AM.

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          • Enzo Mc is SHIT
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            #15
            This will be a cruel, systematic beat down.

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            • Boxing Goat
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              #16
              The author is a bias jerk. He adamantly claims Vitali wasnt the number one heavyweight in 2004-5 after beating Corrie Sanders. He doesn't deserve to have a published article. Theres no room for unneutral authors in any kind of media. I dont care how intellectual they are.

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              • crold1
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                #17
                Ignore Boxing Goat. I didn't remotely say that (actually checked what the moron wrote to see what nonsense he was hacking out with the keys now).

                I'd call you dumb as rocks but rocks don't deserve the insult.

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                • BattlingNelson
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                  #18
                  Nice breakdown. I really look forward to this fight. Hopefully Povetkin can make it somewhat competitive.

                  An upset is not out of the question. Wlad is out of his comfortzone not fighting for k2. After a russian ****** Rich guy paid funny money for the fight, there is a real danger of funny scorecards. Also the odds on this fight has allegedly narrowed down as a lot of money has been put on the russian in the last couple of days.

                  Another thing is that Wlad is 37 now. It has been seen before that boxers turn old overnight. Still if the standard Wlad turns up, it should be a dominant performance. I will expect Wlad to try hard for an inside the distance win, not leaving it up to some potentially disastrous scorecards.

                  Looking forward to it.

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                  • crold1
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                    Nice breakdown. I really look forward to this fight. Hopefully Povetkin can make it somewhat competitive.

                    An upset is not out of the question. Wlad is out of his comfortzone not fighting for k2. After a russian ****** Rich guy paid funny money for the fight, there is a real danger of funny scorecards. Also the odds on this fight has allegedly narrowed down as a lot of money has been put on the russian in the last couple of days.

                    Another thing is that Wlad is 37 now. It has been seen before that boxers turn old overnight. Still if the standard Wlad turns up, it should be a dominant performance. I will expect Wlad to try hard for an inside the distance win, not leaving it up to some potentially disastrous scorecards.

                    Looking forward to it.
                    Yeah, but there are signs of slip usually. he's shown none. I think Wlad is still pretty much prime today.

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                    • Mikhnienko
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                      Nice breakdown. I really look forward to this fight. Hopefully Povetkin can make it somewhat competitive.

                      An upset is not out of the question. Wlad is out of his comfortzone not fighting for k2. After a russian ****** Rich guy paid funny money for the fight, there is a real danger of funny scorecards. Also the odds on this fight has allegedly narrowed down as a lot of money has been put on the russian in the last couple of days.

                      Another thing is that Wlad is 37 now. It has been seen before that boxers turn old overnight. Still if the standard Wlad turns up, it should be a dominant performance. I will expect Wlad to try hard for an inside the distance win, not leaving it up to some potentially disastrous scorecards.

                      Looking forward to it.
                      Actually Rosneft, a oil company owned by the Russian state, came in as partners for 50% of the roughly 25 million cost.

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