Comments Thread For: Wladimir Klitschko-Alexander Povetkin: Pre-Report Card

[BattlingNelson]

Why are you such a liar dude? The ring belt is the lineal title. Period. Its been that way for 100 years. It was awarded whether you were on the panel and agreed or not. Not only that but Vitali owned Chris Byrd who was number 2 at the time and lost by injury. Maybe you were just one of the only ones who disagreed. The other experts overruled you for a reason. Be a man and stop trying to rewrite history to suit you bro. Then stop taking yourself so seriously.

So you think that Roy Jones and not Michalszewski was linear champ huh?

[crold1]

So you think that Roy Jones and not Michalszewski was linear champ huh?

Ignore him. I explained all this to him. He doesn't get it or he's just trolling. That said, I won't be called a liar. I never said Klit wasn't considered the best in class at that point. The argument is about the process that got him a Ring belt.

He probably doesn't realize there were no Ring titles for about 12 years either. he doesn't realize that Arce, in a line from Carbajal-Gonzalez, was clearly the lineal champ when Ring gave Alvarez a belt.

He doesn't get that Hamed and Wonjongkam were lineal champs when Ring started giving belts again and they ignored it.

Whatever. I politely laid out the facts at the time, including the rankings etc. as you know Bat. Facts aren't biased. If someone wants to say Ring always = lineage, so be it. There is a reason I and many historians disagree on this and some other points.

[Boxing Goat]

So you think that Roy Jones and not Michalszewski was linear champ huh?

Dm was never ranked higher than Roy at lhw. Whether Roy won the lineage direct or not, he was the best in the division so it doesnt matter to me that he got the ring title. Vitali is a whole different situation. He was number one and beat number 3 because he couldnt fight number 2. Vitali was the man any way you slice it. And, as demonstrated today, he always has been. if you want to get technical about it, theres no way wlad should have the ring belt now if you follow the good authors theory because vitali was ranked 2nd when he won it. It cannot be both ways gentlemen.

[Boxing Goat]

Ignore him. I explained all this to him. He doesn't get it or he's just trolling. That said, I won't be called a liar. I never said Klit wasn't considered the best in class at that point. The argument is about the process that got him a Ring belt.

He probably doesn't realize there were no Ring titles for about 12 years either. he doesn't realize that Arce, in a line from Carbajal-Gonzalez, was clearly the lineal champ when Ring gave Alvarez a belt.

He doesn't get that Hamed and Wonjongkam were lineal champs when Ring started giving belts again and they ignored it.

Whatever. I politely laid out the facts at the time, including the rankings etc. as you know Bat. Facts aren't biased. If someone wants to say Ring always = lineage, so be it. There is a reason I and many historians disagree on this and some other points.

Dont you realize by now that your opinion whether you consider yourself an expert or not , is in the minority? This is why espn and others recognized vitali as carrying lineage. The almost obscure websites you posted mean nothing. Even then, you gave two sources that share your opinion that nobody has heard of before and i gave two that everyone knows. Agree or not but you lost this debate. Farewell.