Comments Thread For: Lennox Lewis: If Povetkin Lands Flush, Wladimir Will Fall

[FloydvsPac]

Weight: (Keep in mind most of the 90's and early 2000's Heavys were in shape)

Lennox Lewis fought a total of 24 fighters around 230-250 Pounds.

Height:
Lennox Lewis is 14-0 against 6'4+ fighters.

Being taller actually works against you vs LL since 14 tall mother****as have tried and 14 tall mother****as have failed.




Punching Power:
Golota/Tua/Vitali/Tyson/Mason/Briggs/Ruddock/Morrison/Mercer/Bruno/.

Has anyone ever fought as many big punchers as LL. I doubt it.



Lewis was knocked out by Rahman. Lewis avenged his defeat. Name me someone else that did. Lewis was more past prime vs Rahman than Tyson was against Douglas.................... Lewis avenged his defeat, Tyson did not. Rahman is twice the fighter Douglas was .So I guess Tyson is not an ATG HW as well. If you hold 'upsets' as a criteria for judging who's an ATG Heavyweight.. you are a moron.




Name me 20 Heavyweights better than Lewis. you delusional ****ing 140 pound loving nut hugger ****.





For you to say 'It's my opinion, I don't care what EVERYONE else smarter than me thinks. I am a free thinking man. LENNOX LEWIS IS NOT AN ATG HEAVYWEIGHT'

Is like me walking around saying The World is Flat. **** Science and facts. I'm a free thinking College Student, **** World is Flat ...'


Even the Lewis haters acknowledge Lewis as an ATG Heavyweight you delusional ******ed gimp looking midget ****.


Name me 20 Heavyweights greater than Lewis. I will break down their resumes..


You caponze midget loving rasta ****.

What do you want Lewis to do? GO UNDEFEATED against his resume? Than he will be the GOAT HW.. Lol....

Man...I really seemed to have gotten under your skin. Notice, I have never had the need to call you names.

I do not consider opponents that were 230 lbs equal to Lewis. So your analysis of the facts is very flawed. If you can show me fight by fight that over 80% of Lennox's fights were opponents of similar height and reach and weighed within 10 lbs of Lennox, then I will see your point. But, you shouldn't bother because that never happened.

Also, Lennox's two biggest wins were against Tyson and Holyfield, who were way past their primes. Lennox's major size advantage and style benefited him more than ever in those fights. Also, fans overwhelmingly had a problem with Lennox never giving Vitali a deserved rematch. Instead, he rested on his laurels and to this day he still boasts about his biggest wins against Tyson & Holyfield. I compare Lennox's career with Calzaghe, who also defeated greats well past their primes.

I'm a fan of Lennox. I've gone to 3 of his fights live in the U.S. I've met him and he was a super nice guy in and outside of the ring. I just don't see him as an ATG. I stand by my position.

[D4thincarnation]

Man...I really seemed to have gotten under your skin. Notice, I have never had the need to call you names.

I do not consider opponents that were 230 lbs equal to Lewis. So your analysis of the facts is very flawed. If you can show me fight by fight that over 80% of Lennox's fights were opponents of similar height and reach and weighed within 10 lbs of Lennox, then I will see your point. But, you shouldn't bother because that never happened.

Also, Lennox's two biggest wins were against Tyson and Holyfield, who were way past their primes. Lennox's major size advantage and style benefited him more than ever in those fights. Also, fans overwhelmingly had a problem with Lennox never giving Vitali a deserved rematch. Instead, he rested on his laurels and to this day he still boasts about his biggest wins against Tyson & Holyfield. I compare Lennox's career with Calzaghe, who also defeated greats well past their primes.

I'm a fan of Lennox. I've gone to 3 of his fights live in the U.S. I've met him and he was a super nice guy in and outside of the ring. I just don't see him as an ATG. I stand by my position.

Holyfied and Tyson, as well many other American heavyweights ducked Lewis, they because they knew he was the real deal.

Tyson gave up his WBC belt not to fight Lewis.

[FloydvsPac]

Holyfied and Tyson, as well many other American heavyweights ducked Lewis, they because they knew he was the real deal.

Tyson gave up his WBC belt not to fight Lewis.

Bro..it was Rid**** Bowe that gave up the WBC belt, not Tyson. I rarely rooted for Holyfield, but I give him major props for never ducking a fighter.

I know you're from the UK, but is it possible for you to be objective and critical of a home fighter like Lennox Lewis?? If you can't give one legit criticism of him, then there really is no point in debating with a fanatic.

[D4thincarnation]

Bro..it was Rid**** Bowe that gave up the WBC belt, not Tyson. I rarely rooted for Holyfield, but I give him major props for never ducking a fighter.

I know you're from the UK, but is it possible for you to be objective and critical of a home fighter like Lennox Lewis?? If you can't give one legit criticism of him, then there really is no point in debating with a fanatic.

Tyson gave up his belt as well mate.
Holyfield never sought the fight with Lewis until people demanded it.

Moorer after beating Holyfield never wanted Lewis, Atlas basically says so.

Foreman said no.

They were all aware of Lewis's talent.

[FloydvsPac]

Tyson gave up his belt as well mate.
Holyfield never sought the fight with Lewis until people demanded it.

Moorer after beating Holyfield never wanted Lewis, Atlas basically says so.

Foreman said no.

They were all aware of Lewis's talent.

Tyson never gave up his belt. Holyfield never ducked anyone. Foreman publicly admitted not wanting to fight Lennox, but Big George was in his 40s.

Lewis was a beast because of his SIZE, which has been my argument all along. I'm a fan of Lennox, but I was disappointed that he never gave Vitali a rematch and his last fight ended in the entire arena booing him. He'll end up in the HOF, but the Klitschkos forced him to retire at 38. We missed out on great fights.

[D4thincarnation]

Tyson never gave up his belt. Holyfield never ducked anyone. Foreman publicly admitted not wanting to fight Lennox, but Big George was in his 40s.

Lewis was a beast because of his SIZE, which has been my argument all along. I'm a fan of Lennox, but I was disappointed that he never gave Vitali a rematch and his last fight ended in the entire arena booing him. He'll end up in the HOF, but the Klitschkos forced him to retire at 38. We missed out on great fights.

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/1996...acating-crown/

"We are disappointed and surprised that Tyson decided to give up the title instead of fighting Lennox," Duva said. "The heavyweight championship is one of the most valued possessions in sports. For Tyson to just throw it away like this is incredible. I thought he was a warrior. I was wrong."

[WladsChin]

Tyson never gave up his belt. Holyfield never ducked anyone. Foreman publicly admitted not wanting to fight Lennox, but Big George was in his 40s.

Lewis was a beast because of his SIZE, which has been my argument all along. I'm a fan of Lennox, but I was disappointed that he never gave Vitali a rematch and his last fight ended in the entire arena booing him. He'll end up in the HOF, but the Klitschkos forced him to retire at 38. We missed out on great fights.

And there we have it.. the grudge against Lewis.

You want someone who fought the biggest array of Heavyweight punchers to keep fighting until he's 40...? He fought all the punchers of his era with the exception of Bowe and Ike.. One ducked and one went insane.... You actually want him to FIGHT the next era as well?

He fought the 2nd best of that era... and stopped him in 6 rounds.

We are critical of Lennox... but if you can't be fair and say he's an ATG Heavyweight... Than you are delusional.

Also ATG is different from ATG Heavyweight.

I don't consider Wladimir an ATG.. I do consider him an ATG Heavyweight.

ATG Heavyweight is generally top 20-25 of that Division.
ATG is generally top 100 ALL WEIGHT CLASSES(history).. Lewis might or might not make it into top 100 OVERALL.. but to say he's not a top 20-25 Heavyweight is absurd.

Name me 20 Heavys with better resumes than Lewis.


Lewis's 2nd best win is not Tyson. His 2nd biggest NAME is Tyson.. there is a huge difference.

Floyd's biggest name is Oscar.. his best win is not Oscar.

Lewis's win over 48-1 Tony Tucker was more impressive than Tyson.

In fact the following fighters will beat 2002 Tyson's ass.

The Tucker that fought Lewis
The Ruddock that fought Lewis
The Tua that fought Lewis
The Mercer that fought Lewis
The Vitali that fought Lewis
The Bruno that fought Lewis.

All those fighters would have stopped 2002Tyson.. Lewis beat all those fighters.



As for the Vitali fight.. Lewis should have given him a rematch but it is very obvious you did not watch the fight..... because Lewis was clearly coming on in the 2nd half of that fight and clearly with the upper hand. He hit Vitali with a huge upper cut and had Vitali hanging on for dear life all that 6th round.. Lewis was turning the tide when the fight was stopped.


Once again you saying he's not an ATG? Debatable. But I respect that.

You saying he's not an ATG HEAVYWEIGHT? Absurdity.. and you are honestly alone in that regard.

[WladsChin]

Lewis wasn't a beast solely because of his size.

In fact he dominated taller fighters much easier than shorter ones.

LOL @ this FloydvsPac poster who now want me to show him over 80% of Lennox's opponents are around 6'5............ This isn't the super heavyweight division bro.. but Lewis did fought a number of big men..... and he dominated them far more than he dominated the smaller ones.



Briggs 6'4 ... KTFO
Vitali 6'7 -- Stopped and face vagina
Grant 6'8- KTFO
Golota 6'4 1/2 - KTFO
Tyrell Biggs 6'5 KTFO
Tony Tucker 6'5 Dominated and destroyed
Henry Akinwande 6'7... Destroyed... forced to quit due to excessive hugging.
Calvin Jones 6'6- KTFO
Derek Williams 6'5 -KTFO

Fact: Lennox Lewis have beaten every single 6'4+ fighter he have fought.
With the exception of Vitali... they weren't even competitive fights.

Fact: Lennox Lewis have a 100% WIN RATIO against tall fighters.

If you are tall, you are 100% bound to lose against Lennox Lewis.


If Lewis fought against people his size 100% of the time? He will win 100% of the time based on the fact that he have won 100% of his fights against tall fighters.

Men lie. Women lie. Numbers don't lie. Lennox don't lie.

[RespekonMyName]

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/1996...acating-crown/

"We are disappointed and surprised that Tyson decided to give up the title instead of fighting Lennox," Duva said. "The heavyweight championship is one of the most valued possessions in sports. For Tyson to just throw it away like this is incredible. I thought he was a warrior. I was wrong."

Wasn't Lewis paid step-aside money too?

[WladsChin]

Watch 96-00 Lewis.
Wathc his fluidity, watch his shoulder roll against Briggs, watch that body work, the combinations, the counter punching, the upper cuts, watch the ring generalship as he dominated Holyfield, watch the inside work, ... you watch these things and you tell me it was just 'his size'.

Stop watching his fights against Tyson and Vitali.... when he was clearly past it.

Prime Lewis beat Vitali 100% of the time. Shot Lewis took Vitali to the deep end.



Anyone that says Lewis have no skills and is not an ATG Heavyweight.. is clearly a hater. It's easy to tell that certain people have agendas against Lewis... they usually expose it within a few posts.

The primary reasons are:
1 or a combination of the following:

Lennox is :
British
Black
Beat up your favorite Heavyweight Hero.


Stop with that haterade.. and appreciate someone who never have to beat women and **** people to get 150 Million dollars into his bank account.