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  • The Big Dunn
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    #61
    Originally posted by HeroBando
    I guess I was at least a step ahead lol. I said that JMM's 2nd best scalp might not be in Pac's top 10. Is it "scalp" that's confusing you? You think that just means "who", not "when"? For me, Mosley is not much of a "scalp" for Pac, nor is RJJ for Danny Green, nor is Toney for whoever was beating him up last.

    And nobody could make a convincing argument that JMM's 2nd best win belongs in Pac's top 10. Cliff didn't fare too well, he ended up arguing manner of win counts, yet for him JMM's MAB > Pac's Hatton (somehow) >> Pac's MAB 2.
    you didn't say might dude you said is. and you didn't say scalp you said win. geez man!

    Look dude have it any way you want. anyone who reads that thread knows whats up.

    as for this thread, its reasonable to have JMM ahead of manny. I don't but Iunderstand those who do and why.

    Much like that thread you just get upset whenever a poster thinks JMM is better than manny.

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    • HeroBando
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      #62
      Originally posted by bojangles1987
      It wasn't a large majority, it was like 57-51 for Marquez or something. I've seen it posted enough to know I'm at least close.

      The only person who scored the Pac fight for Bradley was Brian Kenny, who did the Top Rank telecast I believe.
      You had 144 scores posted. 57 scored it for JMM, 51 for Pac, 36 draw. So a solid majority did not have JMM winning.

      I mean, lets say you have 100 scores, all draws except 1 win one way, 2 wins the other way. Would you say a majority had it for fighter B?

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      • HeroBando
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        #63
        Originally posted by Big Dunn
        you didn't say might dude you said is. and you didn't say scalp you said win. geez man!

        Look dude have it any way you want. anyone who reads that thread knows whats up.

        as for this thread, its reasonable to have JMM ahead of manny. I don't but Iunderstand those who do and why.

        Much like that thread you just get upset whenever a poster thinks JMM is better than manny.
        Scalp, win, whatever, it includes both "when" and "who". and I see you're reluctant to argue the point. That's fine, it's subjective, but point made: you really have to make an effort to put JMM's second best win in Pac's top 10. QED

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        • Elotero
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          #64
          Originally posted by HeroBando
          He certainly was h2h, but you don't mean all time? That's my point, get it?

          Thanks for conceding JMM's resume << Pac's. That's what counts when talking who's better, else soon enough you're ranking Norton and Tarver as ATGs, and Danny Green might have a claim

          Oh yeah? Did that resume stop him from getting crushed?

          Maybe if he had faced more prime fighters and not name value faded fighters he may have had a better boxing IQ than to fall for the same right hand trap over and over and over...

          But carry on with your atg ranking...

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            #65
            Tim is hyping up the fight and makes Pac fans angry as hell at the same time...but everything he said is true though.
            Last edited by VatoMulatto; 10-04-2013, 04:26 PM.

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            • HeroBando
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              #66
              Originally posted by Elotero
              Oh yeah? Did that resume stop him from getting crushed?

              Maybe if he had faced more prime fighters and not name value faded fighters he may have had a better boxing IQ than to fall for the same right hand trap over and over and over...

              But carry on with your atg ranking...
              He faced JMM's second best win 6 months later, but that Barrera just wanted to be friends and doesn't figure as a good Pac win. You're saying he should have faced shot Casamayor or Juan Diaz? I know Marg was not a great win for Pac, but he goes through that Casa, Diaz, and Katsidis in one night, in under 12 rounds.

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              • LouIE G
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                #67
                I dont know about that

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                • mathed
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by bojangles1987


                  It will be interesting to see if Marquez's style is easier or worse for Bradley than Pac's was.
                  I guess we will see in 8 days' time. Tim hit Pac plenty and Pac missed Bradley plenty but the media wanted to portray something else.

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                  • mex602
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by mathed
                    I guess we will see in 8 days' time. Tim hit Pac plenty and Pac missed Bradley plenty but the media wanted to portray something else.

                    pac won bro

                    it wasn't close......at all

                    i dont hate tim btw

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Cuerno~de~Chivo
                      And PAC? Shot morales... David Diaz??? Common then all the catch weight fights

                      At the end of the day jmm put PAC to sleep to close the chapter
                      at the end of the day it is what it is 2-1-1 advantage pac

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