Mayweather has consistently avoided the best available opposition (Great Article)

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  • The Big Dunn
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    #101
    Originally posted by WilkinsOlajuwon
    your was not a simple question, its a loaded one.

    you should know that being #1 at a weight doesnt mean you are among the best in the sport--especially when that division is weak, which it was. i hope that clears things up. and mosley wasnt #1 at welter, he was ranked #1 by the wbc. kind of a big difference no? wasnt floyd the #1? see that is what happens when you just cavalierly toss out "#1" you lose sight of the whole story.
    I never said cotto was best in the sport -see your doing it again.

    its not a loaded question at all. just because an honest answer refutes your theory doesn't make the question loaded or problematic.

    Mosley was the lineal champ when he fought floyd and was considered the #1 ww by many. or did you forget.

    the bottom line is you know where each was ranked when floyd fought them. were they prime, no. when they were prime, they choose not to fight floyd for whatever reason(s).

    ARe there fighters you wanted to see floyd fight but didn't, yes. Does he deserve criticism for some of them, maybe. But to elevate margs and pwill based solely on the fights not happening is ridiculous.

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    • Boxing lives
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      #102
      Originally posted by WilkinsOlajuwon
      This is the definition of hating...the Hauser's article should not be lumped together with this.
      Floyd would rather trade blows with his baby mama instead of facing Pacwarrior. There wanna say I'm hating I might as well make it worth it. Kind of funny coming from the thread starter. This must be a way for you to try to save face somehow.

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      • Frank Ducketts
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        #103
        Pacs fans are uniting in this thread. I love it, lmao!

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        • Boxing lives
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          #104
          Originally posted by Frank Ducketts
          Pac was knocked out by a straight left, a body shot. And a right hand. I think rios will ko Pac with his uppercut. That'll be 4 different type punches that Pac was kod by.
          Rios did that? Damn. GGG literally punched Floyd's head off his shoulders and just the skin on Floyds neck was left floppily leaving red stains in his chest. Ofcourse Floyd was shot at the time of this fight due to Pacman beating him over 10 lopsided rounds before Floyd had a second stool brought into the ring for Roger so they could both sit on the stool and quit the fight at the same time.

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          • D4thincarnation
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            #105
            Originally posted by Frank Ducketts
            Pacs fans are uniting in this thread. I love it, lmao!
            Doesn't take much to get you excited, careful you don't have an accident in your pants.

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            • BafanaBafana
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              #106
              Originally posted by Verstyle
              critisize floyd all you want but facts are facts

              Canelo-unified champ at 154,#1 fighter there

              Guerrero-interim wbc champ-#2 at ww

              Cotto-#1 fighter at 154 WBA champion

              Ortiz-WBC champion#2 ww

              Shane-WBA champion-#1 ww
              Guerrero #2 at welterweight? How is that possible when you have guys like Mayweather (himself), Marquez, Pac, Bradley, Alexander, Maidana, etc. at the weight. Is this something the Ring/GBP rankings said... When you put those fights into perspective it doesn't really look all that good.

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              • 285Kid
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                #107


                Floyd should've foght the winner right?

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                • WilkinsOlajuwon
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by Big Dunn
                  I never said cotto was best in the sport -see your doing it again.

                  its not a loaded question at all. just because an honest answer refutes your theory doesn't make the question loaded or problematic.

                  Mosley was the lineal champ when he fought floyd and was considered the #1 ww by many. or did you forget.

                  the bottom line is you know where each was ranked when floyd fought them. were they prime, no. when they were prime, they choose not to fight floyd for whatever reason(s).

                  ARe there fighters you wanted to see floyd fight but didn't, yes. Does he deserve criticism for some of them, maybe. But to elevate margs and pwill based solely on the fights not happening is ridiculous.
                  so by saying cotto was #1 what do you want people to think? you DONT want them to think he was a top fighter? jeez, listen to yourself

                  hauser's points are more detailed than just "elevating Pwill and margs"

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                  • dc3383
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                    Yes people will also see his fights, but fans also read books, they will also see the fights of Pacquiao, Martinez, Margarito, Williams and wonder why Mayweather never fought these fighters if he were so good.

                    They will also see the like of Oscar, Mosley and Cotto were past their prime.
                    In these books what are they going to when people see Martinez and Floyd was never the same division; what will they say when they see Srrgio was willing to go down to fight two welterweights but wouldnt go up one division to fight Andre Ward hummm. The only thing they will read about Margarito is his wrap scandal and Paul Williams career got cut shirt because of a bike accident not that they were ATG fighters.

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                    • WilkinsOlajuwon
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by Boxing lives
                      Floyd would rather trade blows with his baby mama instead of facing Pacwarrior. There wanna say I'm hating I might as well make it worth it. Kind of funny coming from the thread starter. This must be a way for you to try to save face somehow.
                      i didnt start the thread


                      im trying to make a point that defending floyd across the board is lame and that acknowledging he has faults isnt the end of the world

                      when you make dumb comments like that all the groupies just think every comment criticizing floyd is hating. understand? but hey do what you gotta do man

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