Comments Thread For: Roach: Refreshed Miguel Cotto Has "A Good Future"

[SUCIO416]

lol @ refreshed


this guy is tired and battle worn



i doubt hell do good with freddie roach, and im pretty sure hell dump him afterwards

[Mojita]

Martinez looks like a small MW and he himself said he can still make Super WW. He was even willing to go to 150lbs for Floyd/Manny. I think Cotto has a great chance.

Miguel is more technically sound then Sergio and has better fundamentals. Sergio hasn't looked great as of late and his chin is questionable. Not to mention his defense isn't even good for a guy who is supposed to be "slick". I got Cotto by decision on this one.

Martinez is a guy who's been in there with heavy punchers like Chavez and Pavlik. Mind you those guys didn't land at night on him but let alone they landed and Martinez stood. Cotto can't hurt Martinez. And yes Miguel is more "skilled" But like what happened MarquezVsMayweather. Skill doesn't translate if the weight doesn't help translate with it. Which is the case here.

Look, Trout is a B- level fighter at best. He's not even that fast or even a real skilled fighter but he literally beat Cotto in a decision. You don't think Martinez who's more aggressive, faster, strong won't TKO back to next year? And i hope nobody thinks im a Cotto hater if you really knew i'm a big Cotto fan but it gets tiring see unrealistic post or predictions around here. You guys got to look at so many factors when you put fighter vs fighter. ontop of that Martinez has been winning and his confidence is high, Cotto has lost twice already. Who would you take here in a mental edge too? Especially knowing Cotto likes to backpeddle when he can't back you up. Think about that. Cotto loses to Martinez. He doesn't belong nowhere near 160. If Martinez came down to 154 fine, but there's no incentive for that. Cotto has no belt, only a name that's getting dimished.

[aaron.king]

I'm excited after seeing his condition. He's ready to fight.

Agreed. He hasn't looked this shredded in years. I actually don't know if we've ever seen him look like this.

[Cuerno~de~Chivo]

lol @ refreshed


this guy is tired and battle worn



i doubt hell do good with freddie roach, and im pretty sure hell dump him afterwards

Yeah he'll dump Freddie for nacho or robert Garcia next

[Cuerno~de~Chivo]

Martinez is a guy who's been in there with heavy punchers like Chavez and Pavlik. Mind you those guys didn't land at night on him but let alone they landed and Martinez stood. Cotto can't hurt Martinez. And yes Miguel is more "skilled" But like what happened MarquezVsMayweather. Skill doesn't translate if the weight doesn't help translate with it. Which is the case here.

Look, Trout is a B- level fighter at best. He's not even that fast or even a real skilled fighter but he literally beat Cotto in a decision. You don't think Martinez who's more aggressive, faster, strong won't TKO back to next year? And i hope nobody thinks im a Cotto hater if you really knew i'm a big Cotto fan but it gets tiring see unrealistic post or predictions around here. You guys got to look at so many factors when you put fighter vs fighter. ontop of that Martinez has been winning and his confidence is high, Cotto has lost twice already. Who would you take here in a mental edge too? Especially knowing Cotto likes to backpeddle when he can't back you up. Think about that. Cotto loses to Martinez. He doesn't belong nowhere near 160. If Martinez came down to 154 fine, but there's no incentive for that. Cotto has no belt, only a name that's getting dimished.

I agree and I like Cotto as well

[Sttag]

who did cotto spar with in this camp ?

[ShoulderRoll]

And yes Miguel is more "skilled" But like what happened MarquezVsMayweather. Skill doesn't translate if the weight doesn't help translate with it.

I don't think the weight had anything to do with Marquez vs. Mayweather, it was simply a case of Floyd having more skill and more speed than JMM.

In any case I would prefer to see Cotto vs. Canelo. That fight would also bring more money for Miguel than Sergio Martinez would.

However if Cotto wants to try for history by winning the middleweight belt then Sergio does provide that chance to improve his legacy.

[El Angel]

Agreed. He hasn't looked this shredded in years. I actually don't know if we've ever seen him look like this.

No we haven't. He's never looked this cut at 154 pounds.

[Da Boxer]

Miguel stop Sergio late with body attack. He puts pressure and Sergio will run. Cotto unlike Chavez Jr. is a master at cutting the ring....he will trap Sergio and and it will be over.

[Atharee]

Martinez is a guy who's been in there with heavy punchers like Chavez and Pavlik. Mind you those guys didn't land at night on him but let alone they landed and Martinez stood. Cotto can't hurt Martinez. And yes Miguel is more "skilled" But like what happened MarquezVsMayweather. Skill doesn't translate if the weight doesn't help translate with it. Which is the case here.

Look, Trout is a B- level fighter at best. He's not even that fast or even a real skilled fighter but he literally beat Cotto in a decision. You don't think Martinez who's more aggressive, faster, strong won't TKO back to next year? And i hope nobody thinks im a Cotto hater if you really knew i'm a big Cotto fan but it gets tiring see unrealistic post or predictions around here. You guys got to look at so many factors when you put fighter vs fighter. ontop of that Martinez has been winning and his confidence is high, Cotto has lost twice already. Who would you take here in a mental edge too? Especially knowing Cotto likes to backpeddle when he can't back you up. Think about that. Cotto loses to Martinez. He doesn't belong nowhere near 160. If Martinez came down to 154 fine, but there's no incentive for that. Cotto has no belt, only a name that's getting dimished.

JCC and Pavlik both dropped Martinez. Martinez was almost finished by Chavez and his boxing skills are nowhere near the level of a Cotto. As for the Marquez/Mayweather analogy, JMM is skilled but nowhere near the level of a Floyd, regardless if Mayweather and JMM are the same weight, Floyd will always be the more skilled fighter between the two.

If Trout is a B- level fighter then look at the rest of Sergio's resume. Nobody heard of Murray before Sergio fought him and Martin dropped him and Martinez got a gift decision in his home country. JCC only got far in his career cause of his fathers name, his chin and the fact that hes super big for his weight but if he didnt have one of those three, he would be a cab driver at best. Darren Barker? Nobody heard of him before Sergio fought him as well. Dzinziruk is a Super WW who fought at MW. If Trout is a B- level fighter then 95% of Martinez' resume are C level fighters at best.

Cotto lost twice, once to the P4P King (who would school Martinez btw) and once to Trout, a top 3 Super WW when he fought Cotto. Martinez should've lost to Murray and he has been dropped how many times now? The guy aint got a chin. Pavlik, Williams, Murray, Chavez and Margarito all dropped him. Martinez gets to much hype on here.

Cotto's name is worth more then Sergio's belts. Why do you think Sergio is so desperate to come all the way down to 150 for a Mayweather/Pacquiao fight instead of fighting GGG? Hell, Canelo refused to go to 150. Whether Miguel has a belt or not, Sergio needs him more then the other way around. Martinez has never been on PPV and couldn't sell out any arena in the world outside of the ones in Argentina. Cotto is the biggest draw after May/Pac.

Martinez isn't much bigger then Cotto. Martinez went through the MW divison cause of skills and the help of fighting smaller and no named guys. Cotto on the other hand is more fundamentally sound in terms of technique. His footwork is far better consider Martinez always crosses his legs, the guy is clumsy. It doesnt help that Martinez fights with his hands at his waist considering his defense is mediocre at best. Cotto by decision.