Comments Thread For: Maidana: Mexican Will Back Me Against Adrien Broner

[samouraļ]

I would legitimately answer this, but I zero respect for you.

I hope you realize that the feeling is mutual, and that this is an Internet forum and you're talking about "respect". Absurd.

[richardt]

How does he fight similar to Berto though? You stated he does which is cool, I respect your opinion but at least say why he fights like Andre. That's why I said he was a watered down version of JT.

I'm not the only one who compares him, many people for some time on this site have. Same body type, heavy upper body, leans back, haunches over, crosses his arms, wide stance, slow footwork, similar lead rights, shoulder roll, they way he steps forward. Like I said, I am not the only one who compares his style to Berto's. Many people have made the comparison. But romanticizing Broner toward Toney instead of the lessor Berto isn't reality. He fights more like Berto than Toney, it is simple as that.

[samouraļ]

I'm not the only one who compares him, many people for some time on this site have. Same body type, heavy upper body, leans back, haunches over, crosses his arms, slow footwork, similar lead rights, shoulder roll, they way he steps forward. Like I said, I am not the only one who compares his style to Berto's. Many people have made the comparison. But romanticizing Broner toward Toney instead of the lessor Berto isn't reality. He fights more like Berto than Toney, it is simple as that.

I agree with this. Broner is basically puzzled by movement. He's a very stationary fighter with a wide stance that needs you to be in front of him and also needs enough time to plant in order to throw power shots. Move around enough and you'll cut his activity in half.

[Atharee]

I'm not the only one who compares him, many people for some time on this site have. Same body type, heavy upper body, leans back, haunches over, crosses his arms, slow footwork, similar lead rights, shoulder roll, they way he steps forward. Like I said, I am not the only one who compares his style to Berto's. Many people have made the comparison. But romanticizing Broner toward Toney instead of the lessor Berto isn't reality. He fights more like Berto than Toney, it is simple as that.

I havent heard anyone around here compare him to Berto to be quite honest. What does physical looks have to do with styles? Berto barely moves his head and he didnt use the shoulder roll til recently and got beat up badly for it. Berto has terrible defense while Broner actually has good defense... Not great but still a lot better then Andre's.

Look at the way they fight inside the clinch. Broner fights more similar to James inside the clinch while Berto fights nothing like that in the clinch. I honest still see no similarities outside of being black, big upper body and quick hands. Thats it.

[richardt]

I havent heard anyone around here compare him to Berto to be quite honest. What does physical looks have to do with styles?

Apparently you didn't bother reading all the comparisons. And you have what less than 18 posts and expect to be able to say you haven't heard anyone compare him to Berto?? I've been here for years and many times heard the comparisons. Same body type, heavy upper body, leans back, haunches over, crosses his arms, wide stance, slow footwork, similar lead rights, shoulder roll, they way he steps forward. It is simple, Broner's style reminds many people including myself of Berto and I provided the comparisons others see. You'll have to find a way to live with that. It's not the end of the ***ing world, damn.

[Atharee]

Apparently you didn't bother reading all the comparisons. And you have what less than 18 posts and expect to be able to say you haven't heard anyone compare him to Berto?? I've been here for years and many times heard the comparisons. Same body type, heavy upper body, leans back, haunches over, crosses his arms, wide stance, slow footwork, similar lead rights, shoulder roll, they way he steps forward. It is simple, Broner's style reminds many people including myself of Berto and I provided the comparisons others see. You'll have to find a way to live with that. It's not the end of the ***ing world, damn.

Lol relax, dont need get all worked up cause I dont agree with you. And its funny how you compare posts counts to deem who is more knowledgable. I was browsing these forums for years, possibly just as long as you have. I just never signed up cause I saw how many dummies were on this site posting nonsense.

If you can find me these comparisons of other peoples posts about Broner/Berto, I would love to see them but like I said, I have yet to see any outside of yours and one other poster.

Anyhow, most of the comparisons you brought up are physical looks rather then actual styles/skills. You bring up the shoulder roll... Berto has NO shoulder roll, it was proven his last 2 fights. He tried it and failed miserably. Is Berto a counter puncher? No. Does Berto use his shell on the inside? No. Does Berto move his head? Barely. Does Berto use the shoulder roll? Yes but he sucks at it. Like I said, I see no comparison outside of physical looks. But boxing skills and technique... Not even close.

[fladz]

dont forget the uk maidana

cant stand the ****

Never a truer word spoken. I can't imagine any UK fan supporting a classless piece of **** like Broner over a certified dude in Maidana. I know for a fact all of my friends hate Broner with a passion.

[richardt]

Lol relax, dont need get all worked up cause I dont agree with you. And its funny how you compare posts counts to deem who is more knowledgable. I was browsing these forums for years, possibly just as long as you have. I just never signed up cause I saw how many dummies were on this site posting nonsense.

If you can find me these comparisons of other peoples posts about Broner/Berto, I would love to see them but like I said, I have yet to see any outside of yours and one other poster.

Anyhow, most of the comparisons you brought up are physical looks rather then actual styles/skills. You bring up the shoulder roll... Berto has NO shoulder roll, it was proven his last 2 fights. He tried it and failed miserably. Is Berto a counter puncher? No. Does Berto use his shell on the inside? No. Does Berto move his head? Barely. Does Berto use the shoulder roll? Yes but he sucks at it. Like I said, I see no comparison outside of physical looks. But boxing skills and technique... Not even close.

It has nothing to do with comparing posts to deem who is more knowledgeable, it has to do with the legitimate observations that a number of people have made. No one said Berto's shoulder roll would work against top flight comp but then neither did Broner's against Pauli and he hasn't proven the roll works against the best either. Lets see that work against heat sinking missiles of the best and then see if that shoulder roll is so great. I have seen a number of people mention how Broner's style reminds them of Berto - not a difficult concept to grasp, really. I come on here every single day so just because you haven't seen the posts about the style comparison between Broner and Berto doesn't mean they don't exist. I don't come on here and tell ***ing lies. And I named a number of similarities twice now that have nothing to do with body type, yet you still cannot work out the reading comprehension issues you are having. Again, I have seen the comparisons and listed them and others have also seen the similarities. That's the bottom line.

[richardt]

dont forget the uk maidana

cant stand the ****

Never a truer word spoken. I can't imagine any UK fan supporting a classless piece of **** like Broner.

Well, apparently he did forget about you guys and others. He could care less about you guys or anyone else because he clearly pointed out Mexicans to galvanize them. He didn't say all my fans from around the world so you don't count in his book nor do Americans in general or anyone else. Good way to alienate himself with crap like that. In other words "*** everyone else, I want the Mexicans to support me". That is way too desperate for a professional at such a high level to ASK for a group of people to support him? Does the dumbsht actually not realize that there are people of many colors who supported him before that statement, who no longer will because he made it a racial dividing line? ******. Maindana can get mad all he wants at Broner because of his behavior but don't make it out to be Hispanics vs a black guy, that is petty bullsht.

[Atharee]

No one said Berto's shoulder roll would work against top flight comp but then neither did Broner's against Pauli and he hasn't proven the roll works against the best either. Lets see that work against heat sinking missiles of the best and then see if that shoulder roll is so great. I have seen a number of people mention how Broner's style reminds them of Berto - not a difficult concept to grasp, really. I come on here every single day so just because you haven't seen the posts about the style comparison between Broner and Berto doesn't mean they don't exist. I don't come on here and tell ***ing lies. And I named a number of similarities twice now that have nothing to do with body type, yet you still cannot work out he reading comprehension issues. Again, I have seen the comparisons and listed them and others have also seen the similarities. That's the bottom line.

Berto tried his shoulder with top competition and it didnt work. He never tried it with lower level competition. He never used it until his last 2 fights so bringing up the shoulder roll for a guy like Berto is irrelevant cause thats not his style, period.

What do you mean Broner's shoulder roll didnt get work against Paulie? Paulie barely landed and clean shots and he himself admitted it he wasnt landing a lot of clean shots.

And yes you did bring up physical features such as bigger upper body and body type. That has nothing to do with boxing skills. In terms of actual boxing skills there are no similarities. Go back up and re-read your posts. That's only the bottom line to you. Nobody else on here is vouching for you. Youre just talking as of you got all of boxingscene here rallying behind you as to who Broner fights like. If anyone does agree with you its cause if there hate for Broner as personality so they want to discredit him anyway as possible.

Anyhow if you want to debate about Broner fighting style, make a thread about it and put up a poll cause right now this debate has nothing to do with the original topic.