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  • #61
    Originally posted by SoggyLungs View Post
    the story about floyd failing 3 tests was written from a world renowned author/journalist...the one about the sparring partner came from some shady unreliable source posted on some unknown boxing website.

    justin fortune allegedly used steroids years ago during his powerlifting days in australia.......heredia is known for creating designer steroids, known for changing his name and hiding in mexico, known for being shady as hell avoiding answering questions about what he does....

    if anyone thinks being a former steroid user is on the same level as an expert steroid chemist needs to get their heads checked.......
    Making accusations with no proof or source on twitter and then deleting said tweets (IIRC) or in the form of an article and not backing up your claims is not journalism and if you think it is you need to get your head checked.

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    • #62
      Let the commission do their job.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by MANIAC310 View Post
        well they didn't mention it when Ward destroyed Dawson...and Ward was working with Conte. Infact they praised him
        That's because it was clear Dawson was drained as ****. It also wasn't the first time Ward worked with Conte I don't think. The drainage was the only reason Ward stopped Dawson.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by firstborn View Post
          People are fools to think the majority of the top boxers aren't utilizing some form of illegal supplementation. Most people following the sport realize that Conte, Memo and Ariza have all worked with more figthers than just Ward, Rios, Nonito and Pac. BTW, those are just the steriod gurus known to the public, they're plenty more that fly under the radar.

          I'm sure VADA, USDA and the new organization being used for the Bradley vs Marquez fight work well at catching the low level guys but like most things in life, people with more money get the better / cutting edge gear. The cheaters will always be one step ahead of the testing protocols.....

          Wouldn't suprise me if every boxer mentioned in this thread was cheating.
          Probably. Outside of the few fighters doing year round random testing, no one deserves to be out of su****ion. Not Pac, not Floyd, not Marquez, not Ward, no one.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Cgarcia View Post
            Floyd tested positive three times and got away with it. There's nothing worse.
            This!

            Let's have more Donaires and Bradleys in the sport

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            • #66
              Originally posted by thuggery View Post
              Is it any worse than every fighter coming out of the Mayweather gym testing positive for something as of late?


              manny pacqauio is a top 50 ATG.

              so yes, it's a bigger deal than micky bey and his slick buddies pissing out steroid filled urine.

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              • #67
                Floyd has failed PED tests and that has been covered up by the powers to ge, we need to discuss this issue and not just let it slide.

                Andre Ward, the current king at 168 has worked with Conte in the past, possibly multiple times from what I've heard, this also needs to be looked into.

                JMM looked like a one punch KO artist, his physique was better than at any other stage in his life...he was 39 when he fought Pac, not only knocked him down for the first time but knocked him out for the first time in over 36 rounds of boxing back and forth. Memo was the man responsible for JMM's new look, this needs to be looked into.

                Conte and Memo were both involved in the Balco scandal and involved in supplying athletes with steroids and other PEDs.

                If that is the case with Pac's new trainer, it should also be looked into. If he is a guy who himself used PEDs in the past and from the sounds of it a long time but was never involved in supplying other athletes with these drugs then the issue is not on the same level as individuals previously mentioned.

                In all honesty, whether your Ward, or Jmm, Pac or Floyd, they should all be held accountable at the same level if any wrong doing is found.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
                  Floyd has failed PED tests and that has been covered up by the powers to ge, we need to discuss this issue and not just let it slide.

                  Andre Ward, the current king at 168 has worked with Conte in the past, possibly multiple times from what I've heard, this also needs to be looked into.

                  JMM looked like a one punch KO artist, his physique was better than at any other stage in his life...he was 39 when he fought Pac, not only knocked him down for the first time but knocked him out for the first time in over 36 rounds of boxing back and forth. Memo was the man responsible for JMM's new look, this needs to be looked into.

                  Conte and Memo were both involved in the Balco scandal and involved in supplying athletes with steroids and other PEDs.

                  If that is the case with Pac's new trainer, it should also be looked into. If he is a guy who himself used PEDs in the past and from the sounds of it a long time but was never involved in supplying other athletes with these drugs then the issue is not on the same level as individuals previously mentioned.

                  In all honesty, whether your Ward, or Jmm, Pac or Floyd, they should all be held accountable at the same level if any wrong doing is found.
                  Only a complete idiot would think main stream media would not be ALL OVER the worlds highest paid athlete like a rash if they got the slightest substantiated whiff of positive tests , considering Floyds notoriety with PEDs testing it would a world wide scoop , you kids are the dumbest most gullible morons God put breath into ; to think its possible that you can go bla bla all over public forums yet Reuters knows nothing about it , I never thought people could be so gullible until I came here .

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by brickcityboxing View Post
                    Making accusations with no proof or source on twitter and then deleting said tweets (IIRC) or in the form of an article and not backing up your claims is not journalism and if you think it is you need to get your head checked.
                    has floyd commented on these claims or refuted them? i'd trust a well renowned author/journalist over something that was posted by some random author on some random and unknown blog/sports website....

                    and it was a written article that was published on maxboxing. it's still there in fact:

                    http://www.maxboxing.com/news/max-bo...-mess-part-one
                    Last edited by Bermuda; 10-01-2013, 09:43 AM.

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                    • #70
                      Dman you guys hate floyd so much that you hop on a random article about floyd using PEDs

                      This is mainstream news. If it was real people would be all over it.

                      Let it go

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