Will Wladimir Klitschko break Joe Louis' records?

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  • Simurgh
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    #61
    I don't find them boring at all, but I can understand people who do.

    Tastes are different, but it doesn't have anything with their accomplishments.

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    • slimshandy69
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      #62
      Originally posted by Pudgemeister
      Ya. Max Schmeling did it, but a 6' 8'' guy with infinitely more skill and conditioning than Schmeling would lose.

      You said nonsense?

      ahahah great post mate.

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      • SN!PER
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        #63
        If he doesn't get any more injuries, he probably will.

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          #64
          Originally posted by GeneralZod
          Vitali Klitschko destroying Joe Louis, now that's NSB nonsense at it's best.
          My god really? First ALL the 70s guys could wipe the floor with the Klitschkos, now lil still-figuring-out-how-this-boxing-thing-works-era Joe Louis?

          Who is the next guy who could easily beat the Klitschkos? Willie Pep?

          I can no longer take this seriously. Literally ANYONE who is old or dead instantly wipes the floor with the Klitchkos. If we dug up a random skeleton (preferably from a slick American graveyard) and threw it at Wlad it would win all of his titles.
          Last edited by ////; 11-17-2014, 02:13 AM.

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          • Elroy1
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            #65
            All depends what you mean by breaking his record.

            Realistically, by todays standards, Wladimir broke Louis's record back in about 2005 or so, he has now doubled it, when considering REAL HW record.

            He's pretty much even in total title defences now, which for me is the measure of his historical greatness relative to Louis's, what is it a couple more fights? So YES, he will break it and he will be in every way relevant the greatest HW of all time on paper.

            THEN you have the OTNB side of the coin.

            These zealots will specify that Wladimir has to win the "consecutive" defences. Which is more or less outrageous because Joe Louis was allowed to feast exclusively on bums and cruisers that Wladimir wouldn't be allowed to fight and in any case, total career is more important than "streaks". This pushes him 7 fights away or something which is possible but not certain for him.

            Then there are the staunchest of all OTNB that would require him to have held the lineal undisputed championship the entire time, an impossible situation because of the completely different landscape to achieve and ridiculous anyway since it is HARDER to win and hold onto 6 titles than it is to win and hold onto just 1.

            So I would say YES, yes, **** off and **** right off

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            • Elroy1
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              #66
              Originally posted by TotalStud
              My god really? First all the 70s guys could wipe the floor with the Klitschkos, now lil still-figuring-out-how-this-boxing-thing-works-era Joe Louis?

              Who is the next guy who could easily beat the Klitschkos? Willie Pep?
              Either Klitschko would line up every single boxer from the beginning of boxing through to the 1980's and knock every single one of them out.

              About the only thing I can say is that LITTLE George Foreman would have a punchers chance like Leapai did but about as much of a chance too.

              And anybody who thinks otherwise is a ****ing lunatic!

              They just need to ask yourself, if Wladimir Klitschko staged a fight against Max Schmelling, or PRimo Carnera, or Joe Roman, or Karl Mildenberger, or Alfredo Evangelista, they would be screaming blue murder how Wladimir choose to defend against a bummy, loser opponent of such tiny size.

              They cried blue murder when WK defended against Mormeck! Who was more athletic and skilled than any 70's or prior HW and only 1lb less than prime Foreman!
              Last edited by Elroy1; 11-17-2014, 02:17 AM.

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              • titanium
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                #67
                Louis defended the undisputed championship. Wlad would need to unify and then defend it 20 times to compare.

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                • Elroy1
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by titanium
                  Louis defended the undisputed championship. Wlad would need to unify and then defend it 20 times to compare.
                  What did I tell you all?

                  Exhibit A.

                  There's regular OTNB's

                  And then there's the "Nut Bag Elite"

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                  • LacedUp
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                    #69
                    It's definitely not unlikely that he will, now. It seemed unlikely before, but he needs another 3 years and 8 title defences or something?

                    Definitely feasible.

                    But of course, we should really be counting his defences from Chagaev or more realistically, Povetkin. But that's just details. He's held a version of the championship for a very long time.

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                    • Elroy1
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                      #70
                      Realistically Joe Louis only defended his title against HW's about 7 times.

                      So Wladimir has already tripled his record.

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