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  • simms601
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    #81
    Originally posted by mike gonzalez
    Fraud, I mean Froch can't fight he sucks I'm telling you and yes I know alot about boxing since Cassius Clay days. No I won't bet. What Chavez needs is serious training, believe me he is better than Froch, just lazy,smoking pot makes you lazy. So what he had two losses can't you tell by the way he fights he's not talented. I don't know **** about boxing right simms601. Sugar Ray Robinson, Sugar Ray Leonard, Marvin Hagler, Roberto Duran, Ali, Foreman, Joe Louis, Arturo Gatti, Hector Macho Camacho, Meldrick Taylor, Mike Tyson, Wilfredo Benitez, Wilfredo Gomez, Felix Trinidad, Oscar De La Hoya, Andre Ward, Floyd Money Mayweather.
    OMG, how could I have ever doubted your knowledge of boxing, especially since you've named all those famous boxers that "anyone with a computer can look up." LOL! Dude, Carl Froch is one of the most unorthodox, but savvy boxers in the game right now. He does little things that are so small that only a person with the boxing eye will catch. Go back and watch some of his fights and watch how he rolls a lot of the punches thrown at him. He deflects a lot of punches with his gloves. He can actually box, don't believe me, watch his fights against Glen Johnson and Arthur Abraham. He actually fought pretty well against Andre Ward. Then he has tenacity that not every boxer has, go back and watch how he KO'd Jermaine Taylor after being down himself and also down five points on the score card. Watch how he defeated Yusaf Mack. Mack is a Philly fighter, so he has some rhythm about himself and Froch destroyed him. To say Froch is a fraud is an insult to boxing. And if you want to look up more boxers, try Boxrec.com. I'm sure it'll give you more insight on "celebrity" boxers that everyone knows about. LMAO...

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    • Bushidō
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      #82
      This is why I like Chavez. He's willing to fight these guys and doesn't *****foot around it.

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      • simms601
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        #83
        Originally posted by hectorb24
        Skills wise Chavez can defeat any of these fighters. With a good camp, he would embarrass Canelo, ko Froch and martinez. Ward would be a difficult fight but Chavez can break him down with effective body work. But the key is preparation!!!
        I literally stopped reading after the first sentence. Shame on you

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          #84
          Originally posted by ChestRockwell
          Chavez Jr is delusional. And he doesn't deserve any of those fights.
          yet everyone of these guys would take the fight because it's big money

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          • simms601
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            #85
            Originally posted by mike gonzalez
            #1, I'm not a hater I'm telling you like it is, Froch sucks and he's a bum, again, no skills, I'm not saying he's a fraud cause he lost to Ward, he just doesn't know how to fight plain and simple, if I didn't know boxing I wouldn't be writing to you simms601, the reason Chavez is having problems is because he is in the wrong weight division. #2 Who has Froch faced, there are nobodies in the 168 division, competition who. Ward, yes Kessler, wak. WEheres the comp. at 168 simms601. I would love to see the Froch vs Chavez, Chavez will win, may even hurt or KO Fraud. Hell yeah I'll bet you, in my dreams. #3, least and not last, Fraud is a bum and simms601, don't you forget that.
            This reply further clarifies that you have ZERO knowledge of boxing. Did you just call Mikkel Kessler wack? The guy who gave hall of famer Joe Calzaghe hell? That guy? Wow! Alrighty, so let's run down Froch's record shall we? Starting from his last fight, Kessler, Mack, Bute, Ward, Johnson, Abraham, Kessler, Dirrell, Taylor, Pascal, Robin Reid. Name another fighter, not named Pacquiao or Cotto who has had a tougher schedule. Ok, on to Chavez Jr. Marintez, Lee, Rubio, Manfredo Jr., Zbik, Lyell, Duddy (I could really stop here, but for the sake of learning, we'll keep going) Rowland, LeHoullier, Cuello, Vanda (twice) He had to rematch this bum because everyone thought he lost. Wonderful resume by Chavez Jr. Since Froch is a bum and a horrible fighter, what exactly does Chavez do that makes him better?

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            • Drunk Punch
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              #86
              Junior is a LHW who's made a career out of bullying MWs.

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                #87
                Originally posted by simms601
                [FONT="Trebuchet MS"][SIZE="3"]This reply further clarifies that you have ZERO knowledge of boxing. Did you just call Mikkel Kessler wack? The guy who gave hall of famer Joe Calzaghe hell?
                No it was actually the other way around, Kessler got beat down pretty badly in that fight; it wasn't even close.

                Originally posted by simms601

                That guy? Wow! Alrighty, so let's run down Froch's record shall we? Starting from his last fight, Kessler, Mack, Bute, Ward, Johnson, Abraham, Kessler, Dirrell, Taylor, Pascal, Robin Reid.
                Yusaf Mack??? 40+ year old Johnson? Old shot semi-retired Robin Reid? Punch drunk Taylor moving up from 160 (who dropped him on his ass and was 10 seconds away from winning a decision), Abraham the pigmy orangutan who was moving up from 160?

                The only meaningful wins on his resume are a shot Kessler and a glass-chinned hype-job who had already been KO'd by a journeyman.
                I don't count his 3 losses to Ward, Kessler I, and Dirrell as an accolade. You don't get credit for losing.

                Originally posted by simms601

                Name another fighter, not named Pacquiao or Cotto who has had a tougher schedule. Ok, on to Chavez Jr. Marintez, Lee, Rubio, Manfredo Jr., Zbik, Lyell, Duddy (I could really stop here, but for the sake of learning, we'll keep going) Rowland, LeHoullier, Cuello, Vanda (twice) He had to rematch this bum because everyone thought he lost. Wonderful resume by Chavez Jr. Since Froch is a bum and a horrible fighter, what exactly does Chavez do that makes him better?
                Chavez's list of opponents doesn't really look that bad when you compare it to the rest of the 160 division: Sergio Martinez, Andy Lee, Carlos Molina x 2, Zbik, and Rubio. Golovkin only has Macklin and Proksa; Quillin only has N'Dam.

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                • jcamarena79
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                  #88
                  This guy is so full of sh it... He cant even beat the scale, let alone ward. He beat rubio but wasnt that the time when he ran from anti-doping test right after the fight?? Hopped in his car, boxing trunks shoes and all....homie was still wearing his gear....pufff he was gone.

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                  • mike gonzalez
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                    #89
                    Chavez is still a better boxer than Froch and will KO Froch if they ever fight

                    Originally posted by simms601
                    This reply further clarifies that you have ZERO knowledge of boxing. Did you just call Mikkel Kessler wack? The guy who gave hall of famer Joe Calzaghe hell? That guy? Wow! Alrighty, so let's run down Froch's record shall we? Starting from his last fight, Kessler, Mack, Bute, Ward, Johnson, Abraham, Kessler, Dirrell, Taylor, Pascal, Robin Reid. Name another fighter, not named Pacquiao or Cotto who has had a tougher schedule. Ok, on to Chavez Jr. Marintez, Lee, Rubio, Manfredo Jr., Zbik, Lyell, Duddy (I could really stop here, but for the sake of learning, we'll keep going) Rowland, LeHoullier, Cuello, Vanda (twice) He had to rematch this bum because everyone thought he lost. Wonderful resume by Chavez Jr. Since Froch is a bum and a horrible fighter, what exactly does Chavez do that makes him better?
                    Chavez needs to train his a$$ off, I see he has talent, just needs to be disciplined.

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                    • simms601
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by BafanaBafana
                      No it was actually the other way around, Kessler got beat down pretty badly in that fight; it wasn't even close.


                      Yusaf Mack??? 40+ year old Johnson? Old shot semi-retired Robin Reid? Punch drunk Taylor moving up from 160 (who dropped him on his ass and was 10 seconds away from winning a decision), Abraham the pigmy orangutan who was moving up from 160?

                      The only meaningful wins on his resume are a shot Kessler and a glass-chinned hype-job who had already been KO'd by a journeyman.
                      I don't count his 3 losses to Ward, Kessler I, and Dirrell as an accolade. You don't get credit for losing.


                      Chavez's list of opponents doesn't really look that bad when you compare it to the rest of the 160 division: Sergio Martinez, Andy Lee, Carlos Molina x 2, Zbik, and Rubio. Golovkin only has Macklin and Proksa; Quillin only has N'Dam.
                      Kessler was beaten down? Really? Seriously? For a good 8 rounds, that fight was even, Joe took over in the last four, hence the 116-112 scorecards. And since when has Kessler been shot? And on what planet? He beats every notable fighter on Chavez Jr.'s resume. Taylor was punch drunk? His only defeats were to Pavlik at the time he lost to Froch. Say what you'd like about Abraham, he was feared moving up in weight. And are you referring to Kelly Pavlik as the "journeyman"? Ha! Zbik, featherfisted middleweight who fought ALL of his fights in Germany, against guys we've never heard of? Great matchmaking by Top Rank there sport. There were a number of other middleweight champs Chavez Jr. could have faced instead of featherfists.

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