Should Canelo fight on Floyd's undercard in the future?

[Public_Enemy]

Canelo/Cotto or Canelo/Martinez would be lucky to do 600,000 PPVs. Richard Schafer woudn't be ****** enough to put Canelo/Molina on PPV because he knows that fight wouldn't break 100,000 mark in PPVs. I think you and others are give Alvarez waaaay too much credit and have a rose-colored view of PPV numbers. If the real numbers were release, I would bet that Pacquaio/Bradley didn't sell 600,000 ppvs and Pac/Marquez IV didn't break the 700,000 mark. 600,000 people are not going to plop down $50 to $60 to see a fighter (Alvarez) who was fighting on Showtime two fights ago fight a guy that no one outside of hardcore fans have ever heard of (Molina).

Lol don't put me in the category with these other people. If you looked at my whole post you would see that we agree in the thought that most people are overestimating Canelo's PPV potential. Canelo/Molina most likely wouldn't do 600000 but 100000 is too low. Sergio/Chavez did 450000 and that undercard was weak. Also that's why I said his first PPV should be Sergio or Cotto because the totals for a Molina PPV would make him look bad.

[dc3383]

The only way caenlo goes back on his undercard is to set up a rematch. Most importantly Floyd gets to keep the Mexican holidays as the headliner.

[Oasis_Lad]

For a chance to see that ATG Snake again, I say we Petition. And we Petition HARD.

[Boxing Goat]

Maybe, but it will not happen seeing as how he can carry PPV's on his own at this point.

[BendOver]

Well if he is going to keep fighting JWW and old men like Nacho say, why bother? Now if he really going to step up then I could see him headline his PPV, what I see from now on is GBP matching him very careful avoiding real threats and punchers, there are a lot of suckers that believe in him so why risk it...

[Warrios]

I was thinking about this, and I don't know if there is a reason anymore for Nelo to fight on Floyd's undercards. He didn't fight on the Guerrero card because floyd wouldn't guarantee the september fight. Also, that fight did not do well in the ppv. Is there any point in Nelo fighting on his undercard? Should he headline his own card from now on?

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Floyd said on the wake up show that Canelo should fight on his undercards. He knows canelo's fans are responsible for the 2.2 million ppvs. He should just be real about it and say I want Canelo on the undercard b/c it helps my ppvs. I tried, but floyd is too fake for me to like. Now this guys trying to be the new pacquiao, he siad he'll pray for anderson silva, man stfu ur an assh*le stop pretending to be someone ur not.

Canelo should do his own thing. He doesn't need Floyd, he has Mexico.

[jai mari078]

No one draws without another big name. The only exception would be Tyson.

Oscar did and Canelo will. He's 23 and drew 40,0000 to the Alamodome. What was Floyd drawing at 23. Nowhere near that I guarantee!

He resonates with Mexican fans which is a huge boxing audience and he will with the casual fan because of his look and style. The only thing he needs to do is get better with his English, and he will have no problem drawing. Especially if he starts fighting on the 2 Mexican holidays which in sure he will.

[jai mari078]

I think you and others have a distorted view of what constitutes a successful PPV event. You think if a Mayweather fight doesn't break 1 million PPVs, it is a failure. That is wrong. Prior to Mayweather/De la Hoya, very few PPV events sold more than 1 million PPVs and almost all of them involved fights featuring Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield. Prior to Mayweather, De La Hoya only had two fights that sold more than 1 million PPVs - Trinidad and Hopkins. And to this day, I am still convinced that Pacquaio has only been involved in three fights that sold more than 1 million PPVs -- Cotto, De La Hoya and Margarito.

If Mayweather fights Amir Khan or Danny Garcia and it only sells 800,000 or 900,000 on PPV, it will still be a huge success because no other event, inlcluding every Pacquiao fight since Margarito, has sold this amount of PPVs unless it involved Mayweather. This amount will be more than enough to pay all the expenses and allow Mayweather and the other fighter to to make a good amount of money. It won't be as much Mayweather made against Alvarez, but I am sure he will be glad to settle for $40 to $50 million instead of the $80 to $100 million he is going to make against Alvarez.

You are wrong in trying to compare DeLaHoya, Tyson, and Holyfield and other big draws of the past to Mayweather now. Those guys didnt live in a social media era or have the advantages o shows like 24/7, All Access or do 10 city press tours as they do now.

The numbers they were doing in that era were like drawin 1 mil plus now. Floyd didnt have a fight that drew a huge number until he fought DeLaHoya, and Oscar was the main reason for that. Floyd has shown that if he doesn't have a named opponent his numbers suffer.

In today's world 1mil buys is the standard for a superstar, and Oscar and Tyson would have no problem drawing those numbers with the advantages of today's media.

[Public_Enemy]

Oscar did and Canelo will. He's 23 and drew 40,0000 to the Alamodome. What was Floyd drawing at 23. Nowhere near that I guarantee!

He resonates with Mexican fans which is a huge boxing audience and he will with the casual fan because of his look and style. The only thing he needs to do is get better with his English, and he will have no problem drawing. Especially if he starts fighting on the 2 Mexican holidays which in sure he will.

No, Oscar had many PPV's under a million when he didn't fight a big name. It's not a knock on Oscar. It's just the facts. His fight against Whitaker 720,000. Vargas, Mosley and Mayorga fights were all under a million. Canelo isn't even in the conversation yet. Right now the biggest stars are Floyd and Manny. Everyone else is a notch below. Canelo is the biggest star of the rest though.

Your 2nd paragraph looks good. Those are the reasons why he's the 3rd biggest star in boxing at such a young age. The sky is the limit for him. He won't fight on the Mexican holiday until Floyd retires though.

As far as Floyd goes, I believe 800,000 against the Ghost is a success. He didn't help with the promotion at all and no one knows Guerrero. If anything, he proved that he was a huge draw.

[AboutBillions]

t this point I personally dont care what he does. He did nothing at all in the fight with Floyd. Not because floyd was sooooo great but because Canelo dint let his hands go!

So Why do you think he didn't he let his hands go? come on bring yourself to say it ...