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  • #91
    Originally posted by MC Hammer View Post
    Khan would definitely outsell Martinez, and is Floyd's best option. I know they are pulling for him to get past Alexander, because thats they fight no one wants to see
    Only in Dearborn-Detroit, Michigan, United Kingdom or Pakistan would ******-backed Khan outsell Martinez.

    Martinez vs Mayweather outsells Khan in America, Argentina and anywhere else in Latin America because he's been publicized on both ESPN and ESPN Dêportes all decade now and Mexicans and other hispanics will surely financially follow the build-up and pre-fight promotions on Univision and Telemundo

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    • #92
      Fight Sergio for the MW crown.

      Sergio is done, very winnable fight for Floyd.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by dc3383 View Post
        Somebody list the elite fighters GGG has beat to earn a shot Floyd. I'll wait
        All GGG has to do is beat "elite' Berto to earn a shot at Floyd.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by alembic View Post
          Khan - a fight in the UK would be huge. If team Mayweather is considering this event, they will advise Khan not to fight Alexander beforehand. Too risky for Khan.

          Pacquiao - still the best money event by far. Manny has to destroy Rios at minimum, then maybe beat Bradley to set up a fall 2014 fight.

          Garcia - needs a solid performance at 147 before tackling Floyd. PPV would do better than Guerrero event.

          Martinez - great for Floyd's legacy but the weakest money maker.

          Floyd will be satisfied with decision victories so the first three are acceptable in terms of risk vs pay. Style-wise, he will have to work much harder against Martinez.

          Showtime does not need bigger opponents for Floyd to increase profits. They just have to get Floyd to take greater risk and go for KOs. i.e. make exciting fights.
          Martinez vs Mayweather outsells Garcia if done right; Danny isn't ready yet anyway. Martinez vs Mayweather outsells the grandest soccer stadium in all of Argentina GUARANTEED!!! Imagine the live gate it could generate and don't tell me the hispanics throughout Latin America don't order it too.

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          • #95
            i believe if cotto wins next week that could very possibly be the next fight. the first fight was good and cotto is the biggest name out there outside of pacquiao. it would sell much better than khan or garcia. and i know most of you will **** on that fight but realistically, can khan or garcia do better than cotto? no.
            Last edited by Big_L; 09-24-2013, 09:00 PM.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by dc3383 View Post
              Somebody list the elite fighters GGG has beat to earn a shot Floyd. I'll wait
              i will right after you name the elite fighters ortiz and guerrero beat.

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              • #97
                Everyone keeps talking about Floyd fighting Martinez or GGG. Personally, I don't think Floyd is obligated to fight middleweights when he maxes out at about 150. But even still. If these two genuinely want a shot at Floyd and feel he is "ducking" them. I have a simple plan for each. Floyd holds belts at welterweight and jr middleweight. If Floyd is what they ultimately want. They should go to either welterweight or jr middleweight and fight the necessary fights to become his mandatory. Then, he has no choice but to fight them. That's my no means a radical concept. Back in the day when Floyd was a lightweight, he wanted an Autoro Gatti fight. Gatti nor his trainer Buddy McGirt wanted the fight. So floyd proceeded to fight Henry Brucelous and "Chop Chop" Corley in eliminators and became Gatti's mandatory. Martinez and GGG should do the same.

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                • #98
                  Easy win??

                  Easy win?? Wow, going twelve rounds vs " the greatest superhuman on earth" and running in the last two rounds, requesting a catch weight and barely winning via two harmless rights is an easy win ?? I´m beginning to doubt on the credibility of this site´s boxing writers.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by hitking View Post
                    Everyone keeps talking about Floyd fighting Martinez or GGG. Personally, I don't think Floyd is obligated to fight middleweights when he maxes out at about 150. But even still. If these two genuinely want a shot at Floyd and feel he is "ducking" them. I have a simple plan for each. Floyd holds belts at welterweight and jr middleweight. If Floyd is what they ultimately want. They should go to either welterweight or jr middleweight and fight the necessary fights to become his mandatory. Then, he has no choice but to fight them. That's my no means a radical concept. Back in the day when Floyd was a lightweight, he wanted an Autoro Gatti fight. Gatti nor his trainer Buddy McGirt wanted the fight. So floyd proceeded to fight Henry Brucelous and "Chop Chop" Corley in eliminators and became Gatti's mandatory. Martinez and GGG should do the same.
                    Typical Floyd fan. He is the new king of catchweights so the fight should be made at any weigh class.

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                    • Originally posted by hitking View Post
                      OK, I'll play your lil game. But let's do it with Pac. Why didn't Pac fight Mark "Too Sharp" Johnson, who was a primed, P4P elite and considered by most the best lil guy in the sport when the congressman was a flyweight? When he got KTFO to lose his flyweight belt and moved up to 122, which was probably the deepest division in boxing. Why did Pac opt for Ledwaba, the weakest beltholder in the division? When he had Paulie Ayala, the lineal champ, "Bones" Adams, Isreal Vazquz, or Leonard Dorin, all rated above Ledwaba? You also had Oscar Larios. Why did Pac pass him up, and then drag him up to 130 and fight him when he was clearly pass his prime? And as a featherweight. Yes, Pac gets kudos for taking the lineal strap and giving JMM his shot. But, there was a long standing, slick, african american named "Smoke" Gainer that Pac bypassed to go for a Morales at 130 whoi was coming off a loss to Barerra? And speaking of the Morales trilogy. After he beat Pac's ass in the first fight, he immediately turned around and was outclassed by Zahir Raheem. I remember HBO having a camera on Pac watching that fight because he supposedly was gonna fight the winner. Did he do that? No. He bypassed yet another slick, african american fighter in Raheem to fight the guy Zahir outclassed not once, but twice. Oh we're not done. Let's revisit JMM. After beating Pac's ass for 11rds in their first fight, Pac went another direction. But magically, after JMM lost to Chris John, Pac was oh so eager to revisit JMM. Bad miscalculation. Another tooth-n-nail fight that many though Pac lost. If any fight deserved an immediate rematch, it was that one. But no, Pac fled the division. And once he hit the lightweight. You had a slick, cuban fighter as the lineal champ. You had a unified beltholder in Nate Campbell. You had a young, strong up-n-comer in Juan Diaz. Did Pac fight either of them? No again. He opts for the weakest beltholder in the division David Diaz. But of course, a take-on-all-comers warrior like Pac is gonna stick around and fight those guys. Na, he goes up, drags DLH down to a weight he hasn't made in a decade. And fights Oscar after he had gotten busted up by a freakin' "2 Pound" Forbes that had moved up4 divisions to fight him. No big deal, Pac chased the money. So he moved on to Hatton, who two fights Pac, had been put on ***** street a couple times by a blown up light Juan Lazcano who couldn't punch as a lightweight. So Pac starches Hatton for the lineal jr welterweight title. There were very good fighters there. Devon Alexander and Tim Bradley come to mind. Of course, Pac didn't fight either there. But he did later opt to drag Bradley up to 147 to fight him. But we're getting ahead of ourselves. Let's revisit Pac's welterweight run. After Hatton, Shane Mosley was considered by most the top welterweight in the sport. Pac refused to fight him without a catchweight. Instead opting for a Miguel Cotto who many thought was coming off a loss to Joshua Clottey. And this is when all the Mayweather drama started. Funny thing is, Pac hadt Clottey lined up before the Cotto fight was over. He had Margarito lined up before the Clottey fight was over. And had Mosley lined up before the Margarito fight was over. And every single one of those guys were coming off loses in their previous REAL fight before fighting Pac. So now pressed to fight a real opponent, what does Pac do? He revisits JMM. it had been long enough. Pac is 6-7yrs younger. And of course, JMM had looked like hot garbage in his lone visit to the welterweight division. So JMM is ripe for the picking. Miscalculated again. We all know what happen. But let's press forward. As I previously mentioned, he didn't fight Bradley at 140. But he was oh so ready to fight him after he looked like garbage in his lone previous venture to the welterweight division. We all know happen there. No need to make this any longer than it already is. So what does Pac do next? He revisits JMM again. He has to be old by now right. Nope. By far the biggest miscalculation of Pac's career. No biggie, everyone loses. Of course a take-on-all-comers like Pac is gonna jump right back on the horse right. Nope. He does what he's always done. He opts for a jr welterweight, moving up in weight, and coming off a loss. Yeah, the KO was brutal. But Pac seems to have a lil bit of a pattern of making guys move up in weight and fighting them come off loses. And this is the guy you say reminds yo of the good ole days. I've been following this game for about two decades. And if this is your best example of a take-on-all comers warrior. You're either haven't followed boxing very long, have very low standards, or are just a ****** troll who has no ****in clue what you're talking about. And just gets on here and sucks off one fighter you love and ****s on another you hate. I think its a combination of all. But the latter is the most evident.
                      zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....by the way, nobody likes to watch a " slick " , i.e.
                      boxer

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