Top Rank is holding Pacquiao hostage.

[peyk-peyk]

You must be a dumb fck , you think it should be taken when it suits Manny and when it don't suit Manny they throw out roadblocks .

Just like the best roadblock of all time , Manny said " I need a 14 day cut of because taking blood makes me weak " thats if your name is Floyd , if your name is Rios it don't make me weak and we don't need a cut off .

That's worse than a roadblock you ****** dumb kid , that's a flat out lie and a DUCK .

Just like you and all your whiny little Manny fanboys duck that same question , Mannys fans a bigger duckers than what he is .

Calm down troll, I'm not use to replying to members like you. I've been there and back, so please next time when you reply to one of my posts at least put a little substance to it so we can have a nice and educated debate.

For now, I'll let it go and just pretend you don't exist.

[Reloaded]

Calm down troll, I'm not use to replying to members like you. I've been there and back, so please next time when you reply to one of my posts at least put a little substance to it so we can have a nice and educated debate.

For now, I'll let it go and just pretend you don't exist.

So you going to duck the question again , typical !

[peyk-peyk]

I've personally lost interest in that fight, but regardless of whether it happened or not Pacquiao can face credible opponents, not the same ol' recycled ones.

Good point but I doubt that Pacquiao will ever leave TR. Hopefully, TR and GBP will work together and make credible matches between their respective fighters. The only thing we can do right now is to hope for the best.

[edgarg]

The first time around, testing was the issue. If you actually know what you're talking about, I shouldn't have to explain that.

Pacquiao, and his advisors, felt he shouldn't have to give in to that demand.

Eventually, after both fight other opponents, Pacquiao puts out that he would undergo testing. Mayweather countered with another demand involving the money split...fight didn't happen.

Just that fast we have examples of Pacquiao and Mayweather being at fault.

Arum doesn't want to work with Golden Boy and Golden Boy has decided to take the same approach. An example of this was seen when Golden Boy tried to buy Donaire's "services" to fight Mares.

ALL of this can be found with a couple seconds of keystrokes.

It would be boring to call you ****** in response.

Understand that Pacquiao and Mayweather are bigger than Top Rank/ GBP in that if they both wanted the fight, the amount of money that could be potentially generated would have made everyone, at least, content. They BOTH blew that chance BUT one went on to make the highest guaranteed purse in the history of boxing before breaking that record by dang near 10 million a fight later...while the other can't make that money in any potential fight on the horizon.

So, like I said before, how can you blame one participant in a pissing contest for trying to get the better of his opponent. They both are at fault. Stop trying to defend one side.

It wasn't so much that testing was the issue, it became the issue. The Mayweather's sprung it on the other side just before the last details of the agreement were being worked out. My opinion always has been that the Mayweathers well knew that this would be a problem for Pacquiao as it was well known in the industry that he had a superstitious hatred for invasive procedures and-logically or illogically-blamed his loss to Morales on that late blood sample taken. he still does to this very day.

If they had accepted the OSDT without bargaining for better advantage when they were the A side, it would have been a miracle, and if that were so, the Mayweathers would have found another impossible demand. As for MannyP's superstitions and ritual practices of doing a lo g list of the same things over and over, I believe that Thomas Hauser or some other top writer did an article which I saw about a while ago, maybe in Maxboxing, or on the net.

As for where the fault lies, there is indisputable proof that the Nevada SAC called a meeting of ALL parties to settle the differences. That retired Judge (Weinberg?) who specialises in successful private resolutions was there as were Arum, Schaefer, Keith Kizer, and Russ Greenburg of HBO -who had been the go-between- for getting the deal back on track, something which the Mayweathers denied ever happened-until greenburg said it did.... The only one missing was a Mayweather.

Kizer issued a statement afterwards saying that "we know now that the blame for this fight not happening lies squarely on the shoulders of Floyd Mayweather..." It then became obvious to even the most rabid Phoney Phloyd backside-lickers -for a short while anyway- that it was all Mayweather's fault, that he just did not want the fight. He is not a coward, but he and his whole team felt that it was too risky for him to chance losing his "0" which they felt was his main attraction..

So that's what happened.

[JaYDeuce11]

Manny is too loyal of a guy to leave Top Rank, or even Freddie Roach who is slowing down as well.
Someone said earlier that he should have left after the Margarito, which is true is that was his last fight of greatness. H could have sat out n waited for the Mayeather fight, but needed money and let his team listen to bob arum who gave recycled opponents like mosley, marquez, marquez again even the clottey fight.

[Reloaded]

Good point but I doubt that Pacquiao will ever leave TR. Hopefully, TR and GBP will work together and make credible matches between their respective fighters. The only thing we can do right now is to hope for the best.

Don't you get sick of DUCKING the point when it PROVES Manny ducked the fight ,,,,

I could not be so cowardly like you kids are , it would embarrass me but you Pac fanboys Duck just the same as your hero does BLATANTLY .

[edgarg]

Forgot to add that as far as Golden Balls wanting to "buy" Donaire for a fight against Mares, it was only a gimmick. Donaire being contracted to Top Rank would have had to pay the normal contracted fee anyway. But that wasn't the sneaky catch that Golden Balls had in their "offer" to TR.

It was a little clause in that small print, allowing them to cancel out the fight at a few days notice without compensation to Donaire.

So it was just an obvious PR gimmick in their perpetual fight to try to make Top Rank look bad.

[STREET CLEANER]

and gbp fighters are not fighting among themselves too?

Well, Arum won't negotiate his fighters to fight anybody. And if you want to fight a TR fighter you have to sign with them. You don't have to sign with GBP to fight one of their fighters.

[TheGoldenBoy]

Manny needs Top Rank; not because he's not big enough to go alone. He needs someone to look after his business and accounts.

No offense, but what a ridiculous post.

[TheGoldenBoy]

Good point but I doubt that Pacquiao will ever leave TR. Hopefully, TR and GBP will work together and make credible matches between their respective fighters. The only thing we can do right now is to hope for the best.

Things are going just find @ Golden Boy. They don't need Top Rank or HBO.