starting to reconsider Marquez's stance on not fighting Floyd again....

[Outwest Exp 355]

No reason to fight Floyd. However I wouldn't mind seeing Marquez in there with some off Golden Boy Promotions other talent. They want to make Broner a PPV star put him in there with Marquez. I would buy that fight.

[HanzGruber]

And stop making up stuff..Jmm is being tested for his fight with Bradley

By vada? I don't think so

[EMACULATE]

you're right... that's what i thought....


but after the fight he was adamant the weight was the difference.... so why not try and prove that now? coming off career best wins.

Marquez realizes unlike a Margarito or Paul Williams he doesn't have the physical tools to really change the outré of the first fight. Being a boxer counter puncher and far inferior to Floyd in the speed and reach department will cause for another humbling experience. Im not say if he had that ice he old beat floyd just that he could adjust like in the Kats fight and try one thing different but being limited in athleticism leaves him lost again once Floyd adjust.

I'm one that think in this past era there's been no greater fighter or boxer than Floyd, Bernard and Marquez and even in the losses against PAC I felt he won but gained much respect in the boxing world. I was always amazed how people claimed PAC had so much more power than Marquez but there records are quite similar. In closing Marquez knows the truth about him and Floyd and its the same look that Canelo had after the fight. I just hope it's not a pavlik situation for Canelo.

[Willthethrill]

I don't ever recall Pac getting whooped lol. The first 3 fights were close and marquez was on the verge of getting stopped before he caught manny

[jimboinbigd]

Marquez realizes unlike a Margarito or Paul Williams he doesn't have the physical tools to really change the outré of the first fight. Being a boxer counter puncher and far inferior to Floyd in the speed and reach department will cause for another humbling experience. Im not say if he had that ice he old beat floyd just that he could adjust like in the Kats fight and try one thing different but being limited in athleticism leaves him lost again once Floyd adjust.

I'm one that think in this past era there's been no greater fighter or boxer than Floyd, Bernard and Marquez and even in the losses against PAC I felt he won but gained much respect in the boxing world. I was always amazed how people claimed PAC had so much more power than Marquez but there records are quite similar. In closing Marquez knows the truth about him and Floyd and its the same look that Canelo had after the fight. I just hope it's not a pavlik situation for Canelo.

Floyd would have shut Margarito out. Guerrero is Margarito but without the plaster.

Paul Williams? Again, no match for Floyd at all. The only reason Paul Williams gets mentioned is because he never fought Floyd. It's a disservice to Floyd to imply either of these dudes would have beaten him.

Pacquiao circa 2009-2010 (when he was doping and in his prime) was the only one that would have given Floyd any trouble, imo. And by trouble, I don't mean win 4 rds, or get some bogus judgement like Oscar or Canelo got - I mean seriously trouble Floyd.

Floyd beats every fighter who ever fought at 147 or 154 in the history of the sport outside of maybe SRR and Thomas Hearns. And even them in their prime, I'd probably place my money on Floyd right now if there was such a mythical fight.

[elfag]

after their first fight where he was severely outclassed, Marquez complained about the weight and how Floyd coming over the contracted weight was a major factor....

I always thought Marquez would have been advised to get in a strength and conditioning coach as oppose to drinking ostrich eggs and urine...

he made those *********s and whooped Manny Pacquiao in two fights at welterweight...

but ruled out fighting Floyd.... and for a long time, I thought it was because of his immense respect for Floyd's skill which was echoed by Nacho...

H/E his refusal to participate in additional drug testing against Bradley even though it was agreed by the promoter. Bradley will be subjecting himself to the testing while Marquez managed to negotiate himself out of drug testing has me suspecting that's why he wouldn't consider another fight vs. Floyd...

Floyd's terms are clear "Take the test"....

and it's also why I think he doesn't want a 5th fight against Pacquiao, now Pacquiao is demanding random blood testing....

those are clearly lucrative fights, that most fighters would be pleading for... but Marquez seems clear on not wanting them...

what are your thoughts?

Links to articles saying JMM is not taking advanced testing and Bradley is.

[boliodogs]

After seeing Floyd's win over Canelo I have a new respect for his ability. I always thought he was a great fighter but the right fighter might beat him. I lost money on the Canelo fight and I learned just how good Mayweather is when his father is the main guy in his corner and he does not take long periods off from fighting. Marquez knows he would not have a chance to beat Mayweather so why fight him. It is possible that Marquez improved his performance with different training methods and a change in diet and not throught the use of illegal grugs. I believe in innocent until proven guilty and I have not read about any proof that Marquez ever used illegal drugs.

[Reloaded]

you're right... that's what i thought....


but after the fight he was adamant the weight was the difference.... so why not try and prove that now? coming off career best wins.

He wasn't adamant that's why he lost , he said it affected him , he said the same with Canelo , its softening the loss that's all , everybody when whitewashed like that will throw out what they can to lesson the loss , its human nature .

These words from JMM and his trainer is at the core of what he thinks and why he has no interest in fighting Floyd again , if he thought the 2 lb slaughtered him he would want a rematch because its huge money , he wants no more of Floyd .

Floyd Mayweather is invincible -Marquez
You cant beat Floyd with a bat - Nacho

[TheMexicutioner]

Great post. Marquez is definitely taking PEDs. That's why he doesn't want a Pac fight that would pay him way more than a Bradley one.

[HarvardBlue]

There is nothing else Marquez can do to beat Mayweather so why would he want to fight him again. He still has the claim that Mayweather came in 2 lbs over weight so he can always use that as the reason he didn't do better. However, we know that the weight difference didn't change the outcome of the fight. Marquez newly found muscles and power slowed him down even more so he might even be stopped if they fight again. He's still a great fighter and is the favorite in my mind against anyone not named Mayweather.