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  • Originally posted by Ascended View Post

    Did you not see me say skilled for his skilled yet dated compared to the 90s like what didn't I assess you're slow and not all there for lying saying the man could beat any guy in his class in any era yet never even faced guys as advanced a the average from 90s let alone now which automatically means you're comment isn't valid you're blind not me


    I don't say crap like outdated fighters could beat way more advanced ones
    Skilled for his time? That was in 1974, so what changed in 11 years so drastically that Napoles couldn't do in 1985 like evander did? Please don't give me a whole book in the subject, according to you, you're a fact kind of person. Give me some facts that an all-time great from 1974 couldn't compete with the guys from 1980's?

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    • Originally posted by Ascended View Post

      They don't fight from range much; they leave themselves open a lot. A lot of times, they will just throw themselves into the body and not protect themselves. They use mostly counters when up close; the lateral movement is very basic; they don't seem to be able to punch from range while doing it smoothly; they have to stop then punch most of the time; and their feet are mostly tiptoeing.​ And a lot of times they wait for the person to hit them, standing right in front of their opponent

      Do you not see all these things in that match cause they existed in that whole Novice era
      I suspect, that if you were to sit down with someone qualified to interpret the subtitles in evidence on the old, grainy films; someone patient with understanding who would guide you in a manner similar to how Cus D'Amato taught a young Mike Tyson about the sport; that you would have that Come to Jesus, Eureka moment.

      Though it's dubbed "The Sweet Science", High skill in Boxing is in fact not a science at all, but an art. An ancient art, which urged on by modern rules and equipment, has not INCHED ONE BIT FORWARD in well over 100 years, as the art was long ago perfected.

      That's the simple truth.

      Leave such matters to the historians who can dialog with eloquence and detail about the olden time fighters.....beyond your echo chamber of silliness.

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      • Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post

        I suspect, that if you were to sit down with someone qualified to interpret the subtitles in evidence on the old, grainy films; someone patient with understanding who would guide you in a manner similar to how Cus D'Amato taught a young Mike Tyson about the sport; that you would have that Come to Jesus, Eureka moment.

        Though it's dubbed "The Sweet Science", High skill in Boxing is in fact not a science at all, but an art. An ancient art, which urged on by modern rules and equipment, has not INCHED ONE BIT FORWARD in well over 100 years, as the art was long ago perfected.

        That's the simple truth.

        Leave such matters to the historians who can dialog with eloquence and detail about the olden time fighters.....beyond your echo chamber of silliness.
        Shutup you crazy idiot everything is on video shown here where is it anywhere i need anybody to guide me at when its all shown here like you're really a lunatic exposed

        And Mike wasn't taught the exact Dempsey style; he was way more advanced than Jack, who looks trash compared to any average guy in 70s-90s using even worst tech/flaws guys used in the 30s-40s

        ,so that comment made on cus teaching Mike made no sense at all to say. Also, Mike used stuff Jersey did also he was a combo of boxers

        That's how this work boxers learn from the past and add and fix stuff

        So yea this looks trash compared to 70s-90s


        You're so slow/crazy you don't even realize this era shown here is way more advanced than the 20s which was only a 20-year jump over Dempseys

        See how I see advances in every era you can't you're a lunatic
         
        Last edited by Ascended; 04-02-2024, 02:57 PM.

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        • Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post

          I suspect, that if you were to sit down with someone qualified to interpret the subtitles in evidence on the old, grainy films; someone patient with understanding who would guide you in a manner similar to how Cus D'Amato taught a young Mike Tyson about the sport; that you would have that Come to Jesus, Eureka moment.

          Though it's dubbed "The Sweet Science", High skill in Boxing is in fact not a science at all, but an art. An ancient art, which urged on by modern rules and equipment, has not INCHED ONE BIT FORWARD in well over 100 years, as the art was long ago perfected.

          That's the simple truth.

          Leave such matters to the historians who can dialog with eloquence and detail about the olden time fighters.....beyond your echo chamber of silliness.
          These guys have none of the obsolete tech and flaws named the exact way they used in the Louis era, yet you're here trolling and lying, saying boxing was perfected 100 years ago. Like, shut up, you crazy idiot, you exposed yourself. These guys used way more angles, tech, timing, defense, and fought smarter.

          I can post mutiple no names even in 70s-90s showing the same as these guys way more advanced in every area I named just as these guys show then the whole 20s-50s
           

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