A legit GGG win would be?

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  • Citizen Koba
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    #51
    Originally posted by Still Burner
    So browsing this thread this morning I still dont see a legit reason why GGG deserves a Mayweather fight.
    The question asked by the TS was 'Who is a legitimate fight for GGG?', not; 'Is Golovkin a legitimate opponent for Floyd'

    Believe it or not it's not particularly to do with Floyd at all. GGG mentioned that he'd like to fight Floyd someday in response to a question. He didn't even call him out or anything, but now every single thread that mentions Golovkin is being innundated with Floyd fans saying he doesn't deserve it. In fact very few of the GGG fans seem particularly interested in the fight, and this thread really isn't about Floyd at all, but about Golovkin and his career. GGG - FMJ is never gonna happen anyway, so I really don't understand the fuss.

    The TS was asking who can or should Golovkin fight to earn himself some recognition. With the only credible MWs who might be considered significantly better than Macklin (Maravilla, Quillin and possibly Jr - if he doesn't stay at 168) unavailable, how does he prove his worth at 160?

    Curiously, some people are saying on the one hand that he's no good 'cos he ain't fought anyone at 160 but simultaneously that he should therefore fight at 168 - which as a fairly small MW would imply that he actually is pretty good.

    My personal feeling is that Murray (if he can get his visa sorted - which is apparently in the works) is about the best available right now, and as the mando hopefully this fight gets made early next year. After that he should push for Maravilla and the lineal. There are some noises that Sergio is looking south for at least his next fight, but I'm hoping HBO will be willing to put up enough $s to make staying at 160 worth it for Martinez.

    If the Maravilla fight doesn't look like it's gonna get made in 2014, then I think Gena has little choice but to move up. 154 would in theory be doable, but with most of the biggest names at SHO he'd be unable to make the kind of impact that HBO are expecting of him (and besides which I believe he's more comfortable at MW despite walking lighter than many JMWs).

    Assuming 168 then, who to fight? Ward has obviously been repeatedly mentioned, but I believe a Chavez / Rodriguez or even Froch fight first would make most sense, to establish his credibility at the higher weight. then possibly Ward later on in 2014.

    So my ideal would be something like either:

    Murray - Martinez - Ward

    or

    Chavez jr - Froch - Ward

    Depending on whether the MW fights pan out.

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    • TheRealOneShot
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      #52
      Lara
      Trout
      Vanes
      Molina
      Bika
      La Bamba
      Ward
      Froch
      Dirrell
      Kirkland
      N Dam
      Chavez at 168
      Andrade




      Keep in mind Haymon controls a lot of these guys and has shown a willingness to send them, Molina is a tricky guy and called Golovkin out many times.

      I'll never believe the best fight you could get was Rosado a guy who was fighting Karass who lost to Maidana.

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      • Sweet Pea 50
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        #53
        Originally posted by Money Team.
        I can't believe i just read GGG going to 168 is comparable to Floyd going to 160..this is getting crazy
        It's getting laughable, really.

        But I'm going to be honest here, to have Mayweather crack my top 10 list, (which doesn't mean shit, by the way) a win over a legit MW, with no catch weight, would seal the deal.

        I don't see it happening, though.

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        • PulpFriction
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          #54
          GGg-chavez jr would be intriguing but i guess GGG would have to move up to 168 or possibly a catch weight.

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          • thuggery
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            #55
            There's no legit win for GGG. Those that hate him will continue to hate him regardless. He's a humble, light skinned foreign puncher. Those alone are grounds for hate on NSB.

            When you start to see a pattern of Mayweather/Broner fans hating guys like GGG, Kovalev, Matthysse, Pacquiao, the K2 bros etc, it starts to make a little more sense because you know where the hate is coming from. There's a reason they trash guys like them but hype up guys like Russel Jr and the bums at the Mayweather club.

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            • ShoulderRoll
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              #56
              Originally posted by earth
              proska and macklin are solid wins.
              Macklin is. But Proksa was beaten handily by Sergio Mora.

              Should we start calling Mora the God of War now?

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              • Weltschmerz
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                #57
                He has legit wins already, and he's a future hall of famer. Too bad mayweather is too chicken to fight him at 154.

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                • Bushidō
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                  #58
                  GGG is the greatest fighter ever!

                  nah really I think he's legit and I'm not one to overhype a fighter.

                  I wish Chavez vs GGG would happen though. I would pay 75 for that.

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