Alvarado ignores Provodnikov's request for VADA testing

[HanzGruber]

Well he's the champ so the champ doesn't have to do anything

[FrankieBruno]

Top Rank fighters seem to want to avoid testing

Pac
JMM
now Alvarado

all of their fighters are dirty, minus Prov and Bradley

[Warrios]

Top Rank fighters seem to want to avoid testing

Pac
JMM
now Alvarado

all of their fighters are dirty, minus Prov and Bradley

try harder franklin. u wanna make this a promotions thing, take a look at golden boy who avoid vada cause they catch their guys. top rank fighters haven't failed any tests doing vada last i checked. golden boy has.

pac is taking the test, marquez is taking a test, and alvarado is a just a btch.

they got one btch.
gb has berto, pederson, floyd (trt)...and the list could go on and on if they wouldn't have stopped avoiding VADA.

[FrankieBruno]

pac is doing VADA testing against rios...but yah JMM and alvarado are avoiding VADA..probably a heredia connection

That's only because he got his ass beat by a drug cheat

but he himself was on some **** for a number of fights under Arzia

Now he wants drug testing, what happened to his fear of needles?

LMAO

i'm sure Pac will be clean in the fight against Rios, but when he beat Hatton Cotto, he was on some heavy duty stuff just like JMM was for their last fight

JMM started roiding because he thinks Pac was on some ****, he wanted to play Pac at his own game

[FrankieBruno]

try harder franklin. u wanna make this a promotions thing, take a look at golden boy who avoid vada cause they catch their guys. top rank fighters haven't failed any tests doing vada last i checked. golden boy has.

pac is taking the test, marquez is taking a test, and alvarado is a just a btch.

they got one btch.
gb has berto, pederson, floyd (trt)...and the list could go on and on if they wouldn't have stopped avoiding VADA.

Anyone with eyes can see JMM is on something, his body the size of his head etc

I'm not a fanboy of either Pac or JMM, but JMM wasn't clean when he fought Pac and I have a feeling he will be on the same stuff when he fights Bradly

Bradly has already stated his requests for certain drug testing were denied by Arum.

[FrankieBruno]

i'm sorry did pac associate himself with a known expert steroid chemist?? marquez just got mad that he wasn't winning so he put down the piss bottle and got some fat steroid chemist to put needles in his butt...

Ariza is a dodgy fella, its no wonder Pac let him go

Its funny how boxers dramatically change when Ariza is by their side but as soon as he goes or his input is limited the fighters fall off, see Pac and Khan

Pac and Roach got rid of Ariza because they knew he was feeding them some dodgy stuff, Khan did the same

[Warrios]

Anyone with eyes can see JMM is on something, his body the size of his head etc

wouldn't that make him really small?

[FrankieBruno]

wouldn't that make him really small?

Very funny


I've been around a lot of guys who are roiding and on HGH and all of them have a few things in common. One notable feature is the huge head and massive forehead.

in comparison to a guy who builds naturally the head stays the same size,

I like JMM but for the Pac fight he was on something or did some kind of cycle

I know it hurts his fanboys to think their fighter isn't clean, but I am not goin to sit here and lie to myself.

I think JMM thought if you cant beat then you might as well join them

[FrankieBruno]

lol yah you know that khan example would work cept steroids don't help your chin..try again...

and beef between roach and ariza started wayy back in early 2012 when ariza abruptly left pac and khan during training camp to go off to mexico to train chavez jr without informing roach or khan....and ariza is working with rios ..and both pac and rios have submitted themselves to vada testing...

and not really anything too shady about ariza at least not compared to heredia...he doesn't deny interviews like heredia does, he doesn't keep it a secret who he works for, he didn't try and change his name and flee to mexico, he doesn't refuse to work with athletes who accept random testing etc...

You need to try a little harder and stop putting words in my mouth fella

Khans "recovery" was better while he was with Ariza, he could take huge shots flush and not hit the canvas, soon as Ariza goes, he's falling all over the place, with his bum on the canvas.

Khan and Pac haven't looked good without Ariza by their side, that's just the facts.

Ofcourse drugs aint going to help ur chin, but if you cycle right, you can train longer, recover quicker and be stronger and come into a fight a beast, with a little bit of the leftovers still in ur system

I'm glad Pac and Khan have gotten rid of Ariza.

[brettWall]

Promoters don't want to lose money via cancellations. Especially after learning the Peterson, Berto incidents. GBP, I think, no longer use VADA. Peterson and Berto's last fights after those incidents didn't even have any extra testing.