Mayweather's game plan. Just focuses on what he does and not worry about opponents?

[TyrantT316]

I get the impression that the Mayweather train for themselves and their advantages. I could be wrong, but it feels like they don't spent their training camp "preparing for their opponent" but literally (as Floyd says) "preparing to be the best Floyd Mayweather"

Floyd uses the same tactics in the ring, but it simply seems the frequency in which he uses those tatics changes based on what his opponent is offering up. Like he didn't do much of his pull counter vs Canelo because of the left hook and Canelo counters pretty well.

If Mayweather's game is jab/measuring stick jab, right hand, sweeping right, lead right, lead left hook, roll punch to right counter, move. etc. Then It feels like he trains so that he can use those same moves vs ANYBODY the best way he can. That it's more about being sharp, fit, confident and relaxed so he can just do his thing vs anybody in that ring rather than changing himself.

Again, I may obviously be wrong. Look at the first round of his fights, it looks like he simply tries his array of punches to see what works. Then focuses on the ones that work as well as letting his opponent throw at his defense to test their accuracy, speed and angles. Once he absorbs all the info he needs for two-three rounds, then he focuses on the things that work.

I wouldn't be surprised if he really didn't watch tapes of his opponent. When he says that, that may not mean he has NEVER seen them fight. It may simply be him saying he doesn't worry about studying tapes because his only concern is how they fight THAT night when he fights them. Not how they fought couple of years ago.

[FrankieClutch]

I think you're absolutely right. Which is pretty amazing when you think about it.

[TyrantT316]

I think you're absolutely right. Which is pretty amazing when you think about it.

Yeah. His talk about perfecting HIS craft, focusing on being the best Floyd Mayweather HE can be, doing what he does best, and not worrying about what his opponent does sometimes just sounds like he's being politically correct. But I think he's really intentional about just worrying about what he does, getting in the ring and making what he does work.

Think about it. If the typical boxer were "training for Canelo", they might worry about his size, his poise for a young man, his power and underrated speed. A speed fighter might feel he needs to pack on the weight to match his strength or throw his punches harder to "stand up" to the bigger man. A brawler might say "hey, I need to work on my boxing because Canelo also has skills" and he may do away with his aggression and power to try to finesse and prove he can match skills. Some fighters will say "I have a good chin" and be willing to get hit to prove it only to take a lot of punishment or get hit so hard that they alter their gameplan.

Mayweather on the other hand seems to say "hey, 146-150 is where I am comfortable and conditioned, lead right hands, pull counters, left hooks, sweeping rights and movement are what work for me and I know I can throw them with confidence, so I am going to perfect those and see what works in the ring come September 14th". No need to "learn new tricks", just stay in shape, stay sharp, stay relaxed and confident in what he knows he does well.

I bet if Floyd fought Sergio or GGG in a Middleweight bout, I couldn't see him coming in any higher than 155. He might still even be 150-152 so he can just be him and see what happens.

[purecyse]

Mayweather's sparring partners seem to be based on his opponent's expected size and whether they are a rightie or leftie.

Ashley Theophane said he was one of Mayweather's sparring partners for this fight, though, even now, it sounds strange.

I also think your observation is very close. Mayweather works on sharpening his weapons during training camp while collaborating with his father, uncle and maybe a few other opinions on the actual fight plan i.e. strategizing how he can best use his weapons.

[GrandpaBernard]

I get the impression that the Mayweather train for themselves and their advantages. I could be wrong, but it feels like they don't spent their training camp "preparing for their opponent" but literally (as Floyd says) "preparing to be the best Floyd Mayweather"

Floyd uses the same tactics in the ring, but it simply seems the frequency in which he uses those tatics changes based on what his opponent is offering up. Like he didn't do much of his pull counter vs Canelo because of the left hook and Canelo counters pretty well.

If Mayweather's game is jab/measuring stick jab, right hand, sweeping right, lead right, lead left hook, roll punch to right counter, move. etc. Then It feels like he trains so that he can use those same moves vs ANYBODY the best way he can. That it's more about being sharp, fit, confident and relaxed so he can just do his thing vs anybody in that ring rather than changing himself.

Again, I may obviously be wrong. Look at the first round of his fights, it looks like he simply tries his array of punches to see what works. Then focuses on the ones that work as well as letting his opponent throw at his defense to test their accuracy, speed and angles. Once he absorbs all the info he needs for two-three rounds, then he focuses on the things that work.

I wouldn't be surprised if he really didn't watch tapes of his opponent. When he says that, that may not mean he has NEVER seen them fight. It may simply be him saying he doesn't worry about studying tapes because his only concern is how they fight THAT night when he fights them. Not how they fought couple of years ago.

I noticed during the first round of fights Floyd often likes to throw a right to test the waters. The purpose is to gauge the reaction of his opponents and see what they try to come back with

[~AK49~]

Nah, he's very smart and studies his opponents. Everything else is to just pretend he doesn't care and whatnot, but he's very intelligent.

This was proven to me when he beat up cotto with constant sweeping right/left uppercut combos. He knew going into the fight that these were what cotto was prone to.

He knew Guerrero wanted to work on the inside, but didn't give Guerrero any chance, tying him up and such. Etc.

[IronDanHamza]

I don't think so. To me, he clearly has a set of gameplans or tactics that he believes will work after studying film.

He say's he doesn't study film but I highly doubt it.

He said after the Cotto fight that he was "casually watching" Cotto-Judah and Cotto-Mosley and saw that he was open to uppercuts and looping overhand rights therefore decided to use them. That's just so obviously not true, he clearly studied and saw this for himself.

But if he goes in there and something's not working, he'll adjust.

[TGD]

No question, Mayweather is great at adjusting during a fight, but don't believe for a second that he and his trainers don't pour over hours of footage of their opponent like every other fighter. It would be folly if they didn't.

[SkillspayBills]

Very astute analysis. Floyd BARELY threw that right hand lead for at least the first 4 rounds. I know because I kept shouting at my damn TV for him to do just that but he had other tricks in his bag (i.e. that jab that sweeping right hand) to get the job done.

[tangalog2200]

I get the impression that the Mayweather train for themselves and their advantages. I could be wrong, but it feels like they don't spent their training camp "preparing for their opponent" but literally (as Floyd says) "preparing to be the best Floyd Mayweather"

Floyd uses the same tactics in the ring, but it simply seems the frequency in which he uses those tatics changes based on what his opponent is offering up. Like he didn't do much of his pull counter vs Canelo because of the left hook and Canelo counters pretty well.

If Mayweather's game is jab/measuring stick jab, right hand, sweeping right, lead right, lead left hook, roll punch to right counter, move. etc. Then It feels like he trains so that he can use those same moves vs ANYBODY the best way he can. That it's more about being sharp, fit, confident and relaxed so he can just do his thing vs anybody in that ring rather than changing himself.

Again, I may obviously be wrong. Look at the first round of his fights, it looks like he simply tries his array of punches to see what works. Then focuses on the ones that work as well as letting his opponent throw at his defense to test their accuracy, speed and angles. Once he absorbs all the info he needs for two-three rounds, then he focuses on the things that work.

I wouldn't be surprised if he really didn't watch tapes of his opponent. When he says that, that may not mean he has NEVER seen them fight. It may simply be him saying he doesn't worry about studying tapes because his only concern is how they fight THAT night when he fights them. Not how they fought couple of years ago.

study is not = to worry....

floyd is a brainy fighter, and he at least to me he and his team will not be remiss to study his opponents....

which brings us to the issue of why the mayweathers do not want a pac fight...

rightly or not, they can see some issues with that match-up