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  • ElMeroChingon
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    #31
    Originally posted by dc3383
    Marquez landed 11% of his punches while Floyd landed 57%; hell Floyd hadn't fought in almost 2 years and ut didn't matter. A more stocky Marquez wouldn't do any better.


    Mayweather had every advantage x2 since he didn't even bother making weight, Marquez's first fight going up two weight classes, and Mayweather who stays in shape all year round, he couldn't make the weight, he's a natural 147lb'er. Marquez doesn't belong anywhere north of 135lbs. He is in a disadvantage in size, power, speed, and agility. Moves slower at all his fights above 135lbs. Only reason he fights around 140 is for the money. And does well against other featherweights who have also just moved up like Pacquiao.

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    • DannYankee
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      #32
      Fire whoever came up with the idea of out boxing Mayweather period, and if the idea was his he should wear a dunce hat for a year.


      Originally posted by ElMeroChingon
      Mayweather had every advantage x2 since he didn't even bother making weight, Marquez's first fight going up two weight classes, and Mayweather who stays in shape all year round, he couldn't make the weight, he's a natural 147lb'er. Marquez doesn't belong anywhere north of 135lbs. He is in a disadvantage in size, power, speed, and agility. Moves slower at all his fights above 135lbs. Only reason he fights around 140 is for the money. And does well against other featherweights who have also just moved up like Pacquiao.

      If that is true by your logic Bradley should whipp him because he has "every advantage too" Maybe you're right we will find out soon enough.
      Last edited by DannYankee; 09-16-2013, 09:46 PM.

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      • Reloaded
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        #33
        Originally posted by ElMeroChingon
        Mayweather had every advantage x2 since he didn't even bother making weight, Marquez's first fight going up two weight classes, and Mayweather who stays in shape all year round, he couldn't make the weight, he's a natural 147lb'er. Marquez doesn't belong anywhere north of 135lbs. He is in a disadvantage in size, power, speed, and agility. Moves slower at all his fights above 135lbs. Only reason he fights around 140 is for the money. And does well against other featherweights who have also just moved up like Pacquiao.
        Well do it again , what that's , Marquez and Nacho want nothing to do with Floyd because Nacho said you cant beat Floyd with a bat .. the weight had nothing to do with Floyds domination of Juan and everything to do with skills speed and boxing IQ , weight effects none of these .

        Floyd would do the same thing to Marquez today !

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        • cyutetrick
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          #34
          I think people are way to naïve and don't truly appreciate boxing. Canelo had a size strength as a superior attribute to Floyd and did not utilize it. Why? A more experienced corner would have understood and pressed the issue. Not to undermine Floyds accomplishments in the fight common. The man is obviously slower and easier to hit, but what the hell was canelos corner. It is frickin annoying. It's the equivalent to the todays broncos trying to strictly run the ball against the leagues best team and not using mannings pass game. I hope canelo takes two quick fights and hypes himself up for a rematch in September because I think he could win

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          • FrankieClutch
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            #35
            No, he doesn't need a new trainer. I wouldn't be mad, however, if he chose to train with Nacho. Canelo fought like he normally does, being a boxer-puncher. He just got beat by the best fighter on the planet, plain and simple. Canelo will bounce back and be fine.

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            • pistol whip
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              #36
              Originally posted by Reloaded
              Well do it again , what that's , Marquez and Nacho want nothing to do with Floyd because Nacho said you cant beat Floyd with a bat .. the weight had nothing to do with Floyds domination of Juan and everything to do with skills speed and boxing IQ , weight effects none of these .

              Floyd would do the same thing to Marquez today !


              Nothing has changed in the size department so what are you talking about JMM is still much to small for floyd and hes ***ing 40 years old. Floyd is obvious the better fighter and thats that just leave that fight alone nobody wants to see it. it's not like any of Floyds fights are watchable anyways.

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              • bigsmoothh
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                #37
                i dont think he needs a new trainer, i belive he was rushed in to this fight thinking he was goin to outwork floyd. there were times in where floyd literaly stood there in front ofcanelo and canelo didnt even blink, what was he waitin for? Ive been sayin it forever the way you beat floyd is by pressure and hitting his body even if you hit his arms he"ll crack soon yet nobody does this.

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                • BoZz
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by 3Sun2
                  i agree !!!!!!!! if canelo had a better trainer he wouldve done better !!! even though i had the fight close to a draw i think with roach in canelos corner he would have knocked out mayweather !!! just look at the facts !!! roach gave oscar the blueprint !!! and ever since then no fighter has come close enuff to beating floydie !!!!!!!
                  You had the fight close to a draw?? Either you're trolling or you're really ******ed

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by bigsmoothh
                    i dont think he needs a new trainer, i belive he was rushed in to this fight thinking he was goin to outwork floyd. there were times in where floyd literaly stood there in front ofcanelo and canelo didnt even blink, what was he waitin for? Ive been sayin it forever the way you beat floyd is by pressure and hitting his body even if you hit his arms he"ll crack soon yet nobody does this.
                    People have been trying this method, it's just easier said than done. I love how everybody believes they have the "blueprint" to beat Mayweather, yet they don't realize that nobody can come close to executing it. Castillo is the only guy who did it or possibly came close, but the rematch proved it might have been a fluke. We can't build a time machine to bring back a prime Roberto Duran, so fighters will have to try new strategies and game plans.

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                    • ElMeroChingon
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by DannYankee09



                      If that is true by your logic Bradley should whipp him because he has "every advantage too" Maybe you're right we will find out soon enough.
                      By my logic, All it means is that Marquez will have to climb a steep hill once again come November.

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