Comments Thread For: Photos: Mayweather, Canelo Embrace at Post Presser

[PennyAnd1]

ok so just for this post lets say the 4th fight never happened and many never got knocked out!!

the first 3 fights were highly controversial..... and Most boxing experts feel and publicly expressed that they feel Marquez really won those fights!!! Max Kellerman,Bob poppa, jim lamply Emanuel steward(rip) all stated they felt marquez won!!

so that being said and like you say styles make fights well marquez is a great counter puncher and also a great defensive fighter ....

Mayweather is the best counter puncher and the best defensive fighter!!!
so styles make fights!!

Again Bob arum Knows this and this is why the fight never happened!!

I never questioned JMM's greatness at all. I'm a JMM fan. His counter-abilities is awesome. Those uppercuts, and high hooks. In my opinion there are 3 really really good boxers today. When I mean good I mean you can pick them out to be victorious 90% of the time:

JMM = The best counter-puncher
Pac = The best offensive fighter
Money May = The defensive wizard

JMM & Pac hasn't been beatin' by many opponents, and if you look at their past, most of their defeat happened at a young age, or at each other.

Of course it's hard to pick between JMM Vs Pac. Their both predicted to win 90% of the time.

If JMM & Money had a fight at weight that was equal, it might have been another story for JMM Vs Money. All I can say is that, the best offensive boxer is not going against the best defensive boxer and I don't understand why no one would NOT want to see that fight.

[KING MEAT]

My contention with Canelo's performance is he did not leave it all in the ring. He didn't leave 80% in the ring. He barely pushed himself.

His best work was when he bit down, pushed forward, and threw combinations even when Floyd countered. He only did it in spots. He should not have taken a backward step in that fight, and it would have been painful, but he needed make his size count. He didn't and he predictably lost a boxing match against the best boxer on the planet. He needed to make it a war, and never showed an interest in doing so.

Mayweather dug a lot deeper than Alvarez in that fight and took more chances.

he was lost. he didn't know what to do


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[sapo13]

I never questioned JMM's greatness at all. I'm a JMM fan. His counter-abilities is awesome. Those uppercuts, and high hooks. In my opinion there are 3 really really good boxers today. When I mean good I mean you can pick them out to be victorious 90% of the time:

JMM = The best counter-puncher
Pac = The best offensive fighter
Money May = The defensive wizard

JMM & Pac hasn't been beatin' by many opponents, and if you look at their past, most of their defeat happened at a young age, or at each other.

Of course it's hard to pick between JMM Vs Pac. Their both predicted to win 90% of the time.

If JMM & Money had a fight at weight that was equal, it might have been another story for JMM Vs Money. All I can say is that, the best offensive boxer is not going against the best defensive boxer and I don't understand why no one would NOT want to see that fight.

Well yea we all wanna see the fight and its BOB ARUM that is holding it up!!!

Bob arum is the one to blame!!!

[Capricorn1985]

Canelo says Papa in the first pic , Mayweather says No little dude go sit down before you fall ..second pic , mayweather says what the hell, gimme a hug.. and a happy canelo in his mind says Papa....

[gmc_rfc_06]

I never questioned JMM's greatness at all. I'm a JMM fan. His counter-abilities is awesome. Those uppercuts, and high hooks. In my opinion there are 3 really really good boxers today. When I mean good I mean you can pick them out to be victorious 90% of the time:

JMM = The best counter-puncher
Pac = The best offensive fighter
Money May = The defensive wizard

JMM & Pac hasn't been beatin' by many opponents, and if you look at their past, most of their defeat happened at a young age, or at each other.

Of course it's hard to pick between JMM Vs Pac. Their both predicted to win 90% of the time.

If JMM & Money had a fight at weight that was equal, it might have been another story for JMM Vs Money. All I can say is that, the best offensive boxer is not going against the best defensive boxer and I don't understand why no one would NOT want to see that fight.

Mayweather is the best counter-puncher of the three, as well as best defensive fighter.

JMM was a sparring session for Mayweather, and a very easy one. The weight was irrelevant, it was a mismatch based on style. Pacquiao also struggles with defensive fighters and counter punchers, it's all wrong for him style wise...that was even before he started to fade and also got knocked out.

[bpofranco2]

sorry man but you are the 1 don't watch the mach you are soooooo wrong that you know boxing like i know about greek mythology hahahahahaha my house was with 30 people and my audio no good so i dont know how you have canelo wining

[PennyAnd1]

Mayweather is the best counter-puncher of the three, as well as best defensive fighter.

JMM was a sparring session for Mayweather, and a very easy one. The weight was irrelevant, it was a mismatch based on style. Pacquiao also struggles with defensive fighters and counter punchers, it's all wrong for him style wise...that was even before he started to fade and also got knocked out.

Mayweather has good counter-punching, but not as good as JMM. Mayweather wins his fight with jab and dodge, counter-punching is not his specialty. JMM has a deadly counter-punch. Most of his KOs or wins were through counter-punches. That's where JMM & Money May is different. JMM was born to counter-punch. The only difference is that Money has speed. But JMM is no doubt a better counter-puncher than Money May, because of the damage he brings with it.

I disagree with the weight being irrelevant in JMM vs Money match. It was a big difference. Money concerned that Canelo was gonna go beyond the catchweight proved that. Plus, that was a huge leap for JMM to fight in that weight for the first time, Plus Money didn't do his part but paid the penalty. Trust me, as much as I love Floyd, the weight killed JMM.

[gmc_rfc_06]

Mayweather has good counter-punching, but not as good as JMM. Mayweather wins his fight with jab and dodge, counter-punching is not his specialty. JMM has a deadly counter-punch. Most of his KOs or wins were through counter-punches. That's where JMM & Money May is different. JMM was born to counter-punch. The only difference is that Money has speed. But JMM is no doubt a better counter-puncher than Money May, because of the damage he brings with it.

I disagree with the weight being irrelevant in JMM vs Money match. It was a big difference. Money concerned that Canelo was gonna go beyond the catchweight proved that. Plus, that was a huge leap for JMM to fight in that weight for the first time, Plus Money didn't do his part but paid the penalty. Trust me, as much as I love Floyd, the weight killed JMM.

Disagree with both points.

JMM is a great counter puncher, but Mayweather is a sensational one. Much like James Toney, countering comes natural from any position. Whether he rolls a punch, slips a punch, blocks a punch or steps back from a punch, he counters off of any movement. It's always a seamless transition and it is unmatched IMO.

JMM couldn't lay a glove on Mayweather, he looked lost. The weight didn't do that, skill did. Canelo was going to be around 170 in the ring, completely different situation to JMM.

[PennyAnd1]

Disagree with both points.

JMM is a great counter puncher, but Mayweather is a sensational one. Much like James Toney, countering comes natural from any position. Whether he rolls a punch, slips a punch, blocks a punch or steps back from a punch, he counters off of any movement. It's always a seamless transition and it is unmatched IMO.

JMM couldn't lay a glove on Mayweather, he looked lost. The weight didn't do that, skill did. Canelo was going to be around 170 in the ring, completely different situation to JMM.

JMM couldn't lay a glove on Money because he was the one head-hunting, which is not his thing. Plus the weight did matter, that was 2 weights above JMM's previous fight, add up another weight for Floyd for going beyond the contract. Don't tell me weight didn't matter in that fight. That's pure BS. You need speed to catch Mayweather which was obvious that JMM didn't have because he was too fat. JMM is a counter-puncher, Money is a defensive strategist. How do you think that fight was gonna end if JMM didn't do the attacking? Plus you saw how bad he got Floyd when it did connect.

Money can counter-punch like everyone can. The difference between JMM & Money is speed. Give JMM that speed, and you'll see Mayweather get KOed by JMM's counter-punch. You could also tell JMM is a better counter-puncher than Floyd's by the delivery of the punch. Mayweather may be accurate, but JMM's delivery is down right sick with those uppercuts & hooks. Again, it's the power that comes with it too that makes JMM better than Floyd counter-wise.

How much you wanna bet Floyd couldn't KO Pac like JMM did. You got to have great counter-punch to do that.

[gmc_rfc_06]

JMM couldn't lay a glove on Money because he was the one head-hunting, which is not his thing. Plus the weight did matter, that was 2 weights above JMM's previous fight, add up another weight for Floyd for going beyond the contract. Don't tell me weight didn't matter in that fight. That's pure BS. You need speed to catch Mayweather which was obvious that JMM didn't have because he was too fat. JMM is a counter-puncher, Money is a defensive strategist. How do you think that fight was gonna end if JMM didn't do the attacking? Plus you saw how bad he got Floyd when it did connect.

Money can counter-punch like everyone can. The difference between JMM & Money is speed. Give JMM that speed, and you'll see Mayweather get KOed by JMM's counter-punch. You could also tell JMM is a better counter-puncher than Floyd's by the delivery of the punch. Mayweather may be accurate, but JMM's delivery is down right sick with those uppercuts & hooks. Again, it's the power that comes with it too that makes JMM better than Floyd counter-wise.

How much you wanna bet Floyd couldn't KO Pac like JMM did. You got to have great counter-punch to do that.

Nonsense...Mayweather can only counter punch like any other fighter? That is one of the most ridiculous things I have read on here.

He couldn't lay a glove on Mayweather because the difference in skill level was clearly massive. Everything JMM is does well, Mayweather does better. Better timing, better counters, higher IQ... JMM gets a boxing lesson from Mayweather at any weight, why do you think he wanted no part of a rematch after the Pac KO?

JMM has fought Pac 4 times, landed how many great counters and got no reaction? You make it sound like every counter he throws is a KO punch. The KO was a great shot, but a one off after 40+ rounds.

Having more power doesn't make someone a better puncher either, simply a harder punch.