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  • Kuyukut
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    #11



    Mr. Punchout + reloaded = village idiots

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    • Ray Corso
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      #12
      Theres been catcheweight fights forever!!! That being said theres NO ROOM in a Titled Fight for Catchweights!!!
      If your the 154 pound champ which both Mayweather & Canelo have titles to then theres NO limitations leading up to the limit of 154!!! Anything beneath 154 should NOT be a title fight!
      I blame Floyd for abusing the title weights along with Manny but its the federations whose titles are up to win or lose that are guttless!!!!

      Today the fighters rule the federations and I think its worse than it was years ago! Ray

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        #13
        Oh Floyd **** riders. The catchweight complainers aren't complaining about the catchweight. They're complaining about what Floyd said about catchweights because it makes him a hypocrite.

        "I want my opponent to be comfortable...."
        "It's not about weight, it's about skills...."

        If you don't get it, you're ******ed.

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        • Reloaded
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          #14
          Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
          The manny catchweight with cotto and floyd's with canelo are total BS IMO

          manny should have fought cotto at 147 and floyd should have fought at 154 vs canelo

          but the oscar fight gets overblown,, oscar wanted to come to 147 and cherrypick a smaller fighter to relive past glory ala his fights vs chavez, leija, genaro, etc...
          Oscar called all the shots for the fight and manny agreed,, it backfired on oscar, but manny cant be held responsible, it was oscar's fault...

          Margs also gets overblown, Margs was career welter, and the only reason it was fought at 150 was so manny could get his hands on a bullcrap vacant belt in his 8th division.... i dont think margs was drained in that fight,, It wasnt a CW to drain a guy, it was a CW so manny could get an 8th division title,,,

          like i said before the canelo and cotto CWs are bullcrap
          Margos is actually worse than Cotto , he was a WW when Canelo was a WW so that's irellevant when they fight at 154 now which yrs later , this Margo was a WW is BS , he wasn't at fight time and weighed in at 154 in the fight before Manny after 2 yrs out the bigger weight in his previous fight he was never going to WW again , going up is one thing going up and back dowbn is another especially in older fighters , his dimensions are bigger than Canelo in every way but he had to lose twice the amount Canelo does , and he needed Diuretics to do it .

          Oscar didn't want 147 , it was that or no fight !

          All the CWs are bullcrap if you dig into them not just Cotto and Canelo , even Wards CW was bulldust , name a CW that was acceptable and did not handicap somebody , its boxing , my point is the hate on this one is over the top , the call that a 1 pound lighter Canelo is drained before the fight is bulldust , without being very close to a fighter you can only know if a guy is drained on fightnight .

          Originally posted by Walter White
          Oh Floyd **** riders. The catchweight complainers aren't complaining about the catchweight. They're complaining about what Floyd said about catchweights because it makes him a hypocrite.

          "I want my opponent to be comfortable...."
          "It's not about weight, it's about skills...."

          If you don't get it, you're ******ed.
          They are complaining about the CW , don't you see all the Canelo is drained posts?

          Hypocrisy goes for everyone , Manny is now forcing OST on a bum , the same test he refused and used to walk out of the biggest fight in history .

          The trouble is the fanboys logic is all one sided they cant look at their favorite with the same criteria that put on others .

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          • Sugar Adam Ali
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            #15
            Originally posted by Reloaded
            Margos is actually worse than Cotto , he was a WW when Canelo was a WW so that's irellevant when they fight at 154 now which yrs later , this Margo was a WW is BS , he wasn't at fight time and weighed in at 154 in the fight before Manny after 2 yrs out the bigger weight in his previous fight he was never going to WW again , going up is one thing going up and back dowbn is another especially in older fighters , his dimensions are bigger than Canelo in every way but he had to lose twice the amount Canelo does , and he needed Diuretics to do it .

            Oscar didn't want 147 , it was that or no fight !

            Your wrong, oscar wanted 147, he was at 150 for forbes and wanted floyd at 147 in rematch but floyd retired, then oscar wanted hatton or manny or some other small fighter,, Oscar called the shots, he wanted 147, manny agreed, Oscar was never forced into anything, he has more leverage than manny at the time

            All the CWs are bullcrap if you dig into them not just Cotto and Canelo , even Wards CW was bulldust , name a CW that was acceptable and did not handicap somebody , its boxing , my point is the hate on this one is over the top , the call that a 1 pound lighter Canelo is drained before the fight is bulldust , without being very close to a fighter you can only know if a guy is drained on fightnight .



            They are complaining about the CW , don't you see all the Canelo is drained posts?

            Hypocrisy goes for everyone , Manny is now forcing OST on a bum , the same test he refused and used to walk out of the biggest fight in history .

            The trouble is the fanboys logic is all one sided they cant look at their favorite with the same criteria that put on others .
            Margs wasnt drained for manny fight,,, he was at no disadvantage,,

            Dawson called ward out, and wanted his belt at 168,,, ward took the challenge and beat him,,, it was dawson's fault, and it wasnt even a CW

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            • MR PUNCHOUT
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              #16
              Originally posted by Reloaded
              Its logic and logic doesn't fit into this forum very well .

              Manny fought at 147 before and after Cotto , yet demanded the 145 CW for Cottos title , and then later called Cotto out for a rematch and ducked the fight when Cotto said no CW .

              Oscar had not made 147 for over 10 years , and had not been 147 on fight night since he was a LW , needed IV fluids to gain 2 lbs , that's deadman walking !

              Margo is bigger than Canelo and last fought at WW the same time Canelo fought at WW , Margo was then KOed and retired for 2 yrs came back at 154 and then CWed to 150 for the same title Floyd is fighting for .

              The flip flopping of Manny fans is a joke , they have nothing to crow about concerning CWs , I guess since Manny was knocked out they have nothing to do but hate on Floyd , look at Manny threads there arnt any .
              That's pretty much what ego was saying in the vid! Manny did catch weights over and over but doesn't get criticized for it! Floyd on the other hand gets crucified for doing it once lol!

              Originally posted by Tommy Gun
              Considering this is a UNIFICATION fight idk see why there is a need for a CW. Both guys are champions at 154. It's not like Floyd's never fought at jr mw before.
              Yes Floyd has fought there before but he was fighting guys close to his own age not a guy that's 13 or 14 years younger and much much bigger then he is!

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              • MR PUNCHOUT
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                #17
                Originally posted by Kuyukut



                Mr. Punchout + reloaded = village idiots
                A pact*rd calling someone an idiot priceless............. because everyone knows pac fans cant understand logic or reason!

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                • MR PUNCHOUT
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Walter White
                  Oh Floyd **** riders. The catchweight complainers aren't complaining about the catchweight. They're complaining about what Floyd said about catchweights because it makes him a hypocrite.

                  "I want my opponent to be comfortable...."
                  "It's not about weight, it's about skills...."

                  If you don't get it, you're ******ed.
                  Yes he is a hypocrite but my problem's not with that! my problem is those who are making this an excuse for canelo if he shall loose the fight! Lets be honest here that's exactly what it is!

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                  • Reloaded
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Ray Corso
                    Theres been catcheweight fights forever!!! That being said theres NO ROOM in a Titled Fight for Catchweights!!!
                    If your the 154 pound champ which both Mayweather & Canelo have titles to then theres NO limitations leading up to the limit of 154!!! Anything beneath 154 should NOT be a title fight!
                    I blame Floyd for abusing the title weights along with Manny but its the federations whose titles are up to win or lose that are guttless!!!!

                    Today the fighters rule the federations and I think its worse than it was years ago! Ray
                    JMW is from 147 to 154 , your drawing a line between free will and forced and that's why I say you got to be close to them to really know .

                    Lots weigh in less than the top limit of a division , and many times that's an accident because they cant control the drying out that accurate , it can just fall off over the last 4 hrs and boom your 3lb light .

                    And then you have a guy that is current Champ in a lower division coming up , in this situation and high public demand its obvious that CWs will get a fight made , this is not all about tradition and rightness , its about so many dynamics it just cannot be regimental , allowances must be made depending on the individual situations .

                    The biggest issues with CWs is does the CW hurt the other guy , so I think there is room , you just got to look at circumstances of each CW on there own merit , you cannot compare one CW with one set of fighters and apply it to all others , CWs are not all the same .

                    You seem to just want to single out Floyds but you gave a pass to all the others and even praised some when they obviously really hurt the guy that was coming down .

                    Nobody likes them but its a part of boxing and always will be , if Canelo fights like a drained fighter , no snap will be the first thing , I,ll be calling it and calling for the rematch with no CW , but for now Im just glad the fight is on , it was best fight that Floyd could have made , the fight people wanted and the fight haters said he would duck .

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                    • Sugar Adam Ali
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by MR PUNCHOUT
                      Yes he is a hypocrite but my problem's not with that! my problem is those who are making this an excuse for canelo if he shall loose the fight! Lets be honest here that's exactly what it is!
                      if its going to be an excuse, then why did floyd want a CW,,,

                      he did say he wants guys at their best weights, so there are no excuses, but then turns around and wants canelo at a CW

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