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Okay, this forum comes across to me as one that is littered with nuthuggers and haters, but does have some very good posters. Regarding the Pacman-Morales discussion that has been going on since the fight, both camps are taking ridiculously biased views - I may have been slightly biased at times too, maybe - and it is only making the forum look bad.
The bottom line is - Manny Pacqiao stopped Erik Morales in the tenth round. There is no denying this.
Now, some Pacquiao fans are going to the extreme of calling Morales a ***** etc. Some are showing nothing but pure disrespect for him. Let me say this: Erik Morales is a warrior in every sense of the word, and has given to fight fans more than any other fighter since... God knows. His fights are always exciting, and seeing his heart and determination in the ring, brings an emotion to the viewing for alot of fight fans. So drop the disrespect, and show some damn class.
I have nothing but respect for Pacquiao, he too is a warrior. He is a very exciting fighter, and doesn't know how to quit. He is amazing. And he beat my man fair and square.
Another thing - nuthugging Pac fans are screaming about the bias and nuthuggery of Morales fans, because they are making "excuses" for the loss. Now, I think there possibly could be plausible FACTORS, not excuses, FACTORS - in this fight. Namely:
Weight Drain - Morales said he struggled to make 130, which MAY have contributed to losing his legs. But I know for a fact it was the strategy formulated by Roach, and executed by Pacquiao that destroyed Morales' body, and took his legs from him.
Too many wars: I think this is a contributing factor. Morales is only 29 years old, should be the prime of his career, or just past it. But - over the years, Morales has been fighting since he was 16 (?), and has had over 50 fights - and anyone who has followed his career knows, the vast majority of which have been wars. Morales takes his Mexican pride into the ring with him, and probably takes more shots than he dishes out. Emmanuel Steward constantly emphasised throughout the fight, "Morales' wars are catching up with him". He fights war after war after war, within 4-5 months of each other.
In saying this ^ - I would like to point out again, I strongly believe and acknowlege it was Pacquiao who made Morales look old with the punishment he dished out, yet I think the wars slightly contributed.
Also - I strongly believe, and probably will not sway in my belief - that it was undoubtedly the body shots that made Morales fall. He took absolute bombs to the head, but he took them like Erik Morales. He kept coming and kept fighting. But the body shots took his legs away, and Pacquiao capitalised - KDing him in the 10th, with a left hand. (Note: This punch wouldn't have made Erik blink early in the fight). Even Pacquiao acknowledges it was the body shots that did it. "The left hand, but he was hurt to the body first". As Steward said, "Even a tap on the shoulder would have put him down". It wasn't the great chin of Morales that gave in, it was the battered body and legs - which Pacquiao took away.
All in all - stop the nuthugging, stop the hating and disrespecting. What we witnessed last week, was one of the greatest fights in recent times, and maybe even of all time. We had two amazing warriors, with a never-say-die attitude going hell-for-leather in the ring. Both men left a part of them in the ring I believe, and by god I have nothing but respect for what they gave us, and always have given us.
Let's hear it for these two warriors, and future hall-of-famers, and for the victor Manny Pacquiao - who probably fought the best I've ever seen him, and stopped the warrior Erik Morales.
The bottom line is - Manny Pacqiao stopped Erik Morales in the tenth round. There is no denying this.
Now, some Pacquiao fans are going to the extreme of calling Morales a ***** etc. Some are showing nothing but pure disrespect for him. Let me say this: Erik Morales is a warrior in every sense of the word, and has given to fight fans more than any other fighter since... God knows. His fights are always exciting, and seeing his heart and determination in the ring, brings an emotion to the viewing for alot of fight fans. So drop the disrespect, and show some damn class.
I have nothing but respect for Pacquiao, he too is a warrior. He is a very exciting fighter, and doesn't know how to quit. He is amazing. And he beat my man fair and square.
Another thing - nuthugging Pac fans are screaming about the bias and nuthuggery of Morales fans, because they are making "excuses" for the loss. Now, I think there possibly could be plausible FACTORS, not excuses, FACTORS - in this fight. Namely:
Weight Drain - Morales said he struggled to make 130, which MAY have contributed to losing his legs. But I know for a fact it was the strategy formulated by Roach, and executed by Pacquiao that destroyed Morales' body, and took his legs from him.
Too many wars: I think this is a contributing factor. Morales is only 29 years old, should be the prime of his career, or just past it. But - over the years, Morales has been fighting since he was 16 (?), and has had over 50 fights - and anyone who has followed his career knows, the vast majority of which have been wars. Morales takes his Mexican pride into the ring with him, and probably takes more shots than he dishes out. Emmanuel Steward constantly emphasised throughout the fight, "Morales' wars are catching up with him". He fights war after war after war, within 4-5 months of each other.
In saying this ^ - I would like to point out again, I strongly believe and acknowlege it was Pacquiao who made Morales look old with the punishment he dished out, yet I think the wars slightly contributed.
Also - I strongly believe, and probably will not sway in my belief - that it was undoubtedly the body shots that made Morales fall. He took absolute bombs to the head, but he took them like Erik Morales. He kept coming and kept fighting. But the body shots took his legs away, and Pacquiao capitalised - KDing him in the 10th, with a left hand. (Note: This punch wouldn't have made Erik blink early in the fight). Even Pacquiao acknowledges it was the body shots that did it. "The left hand, but he was hurt to the body first". As Steward said, "Even a tap on the shoulder would have put him down". It wasn't the great chin of Morales that gave in, it was the battered body and legs - which Pacquiao took away.
All in all - stop the nuthugging, stop the hating and disrespecting. What we witnessed last week, was one of the greatest fights in recent times, and maybe even of all time. We had two amazing warriors, with a never-say-die attitude going hell-for-leather in the ring. Both men left a part of them in the ring I believe, and by god I have nothing but respect for what they gave us, and always have given us.
Let's hear it for these two warriors, and future hall-of-famers, and for the victor Manny Pacquiao - who probably fought the best I've ever seen him, and stopped the warrior Erik Morales.
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