Erika's rematch options @ 135lbs.

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  • hellfire508
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    #31
    You're making it out as if i'm a fool. I'm just saying what Morales said. He said he struggled to make weight. For **** sake. Pacquiao fans take offense to every little thing that MAY take something away from their man. I clearly admitted Pacquiao won the fight fair and square, and he was the PRIMARY cause in Morales losing his legs with his massive body punishment, in addition to his amazing power punch to display to the head.

    And also - weight drained fighters can be mobile early, they often slow dramatically as the fight progresses. Maybe in a few cases they are walking corpses, but generally - they look decent early, and slow later. And again, I am NOT taking anything away from Manny - nor am I implying this is FACT, I'm just repeating what Morales said post-fight. Is that a crime?

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    • Manny_P
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      #32
      Originally posted by hellfire508
      You're making it out as if i'm a fool. I'm just saying what Morales said. He said he struggled to make weight. For **** sake. Pacquiao fans take offense to every little thing that MAY take something away from their man. I clearly admitted Pacquiao won the fight fair and square, and he was the PRIMARY cause in Morales losing his legs with his massive body punishment, in addition to his amazing power punch to display to the head.

      And also - weight drained fighters can be mobile early, they often slow dramatically as the fight progresses. Maybe in a few cases they are walking corpses, but generally - they look decent early, and slow later. And again, I am NOT taking anything away from Manny - nor am I implying this is FACT, I'm just repeating what Morales said post-fight. Is that a crime?
      I think Morales movin to 135lbs is good fo him. Even by sayin that he'll only fight Pac at 135lbs is good fo him. He can't beat Pac IMO and we all know that Pac is not moving to 135lbs to chase a fighta he already beat MORE cleany than that fighta beat him. (TKO in Round 10 wit brutal KDs)

      Pac is not movin to 135lbs and Morales sayin that he'd only fight Pac at that weight is a way of sayin, I DONT WANT NOTHING TO Do WIT HIm ANYMORE.

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      • czars_salad
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        #33
        Originally posted by Hendrix
        Yeah but out of those 7 weight classes hes only got 2 championships in two weight classes so some time trying his luck for 3 at 135 aint a bad idea. Im not saying right now but some day, but which I pretty much doubt also.
        sucker ...

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        • hellfire508
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          #34
          Agree to disagree.

          He wants time off, and he said he will hopefully come back hungrier than ever. If he can comfortably make 130, I think he would fight Pac there. But not for a while, after a long, well deserved vacation.

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          • loui_ludwig
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            #35
            If EM wants a 3rd fight with MP at 135 pounds, the promoter and manager of Pacman will say no, but MP might say yes. Let say that MP fights and beat at least top 4 fighters in the 130 pound division and he feels that he has nothing to prove anything in that division, he might decide to move up another weight division. After all, he was 140 pounds against the rematch against EM.

            But the problem is not necessaraliy the weight, but the height. Manny is 5'6 while EM is 5'8. But EM looks at least an inch taller or Manny is an inch smaller. If Manny is at least 5'8/5'9 in height, he probably have a chance against the top 135 pound division. If u have height, then u have the reach. But Manny does not have the height.

            If Manny decides to move up weight, the result will either be
            -losing to the top fighters of the 135 pound division
            or
            -proving the critics wrong and winning a world title in that division.
            Last edited by loui_ludwig; 01-27-2006, 08:35 PM.

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            • crazyjames
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              #36
              The bottom line is that this fight will take place. And where the hell is the respect for a true world champion! You disgracefull pac nut hugger. You should stop swinging from his nuts.

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              • czars_salad
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                #37
                Originally posted by crazyjames
                The bottom line is that this fight will take place. And where the hell is the respect for a true world champion! You disgracefull pac nut hugger. You should stop swinging from his nuts.
                whatever

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                • Alibata
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                  #38
                  I say why not go to 135? Test the waters againts a fighter you already beat. Barrera is doing the same in facing Chavez who is a natural 130lber and I say the weight is not a advantage or disadvantage for either fighter . I think catchweight 133lbs would be the best but I want to see how far Pacquiao can bring it up, ofcourse, after having faced Marquez and Barrera at 130lbs. If Pacquiao ends up beating both MAB and JMM, I don't think it would define Pacquiao to try and defend his title, waiting for up and comers, at super feather for as long as possible and would prolly be rather boring for Pac. I say that if he beats MAB and JMM at super feather he tests the waters at lightweight starting with Morales, Chavez, Raheem, and if it looks like his able go up againts someone like Chico, go for it. Pac likes being the underdog, something I think he will never be at 130lbs. Pac has also expressed desires long ago to go up to 135lbs. A fighter like Pac likes to test the limits and defying the odds is what has made him outstanding. You just never know until you try and I will guarntee you Pac will attemt to test the waters. It may be suicide but so was facing Morales and Barrera in most eyes. Time flys when you go to war. Pac is 27, he should go out and leave a mark knowing that he did everything to acheive his full potential.
                  Last edited by Alibata; 01-28-2006, 07:42 PM.

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                  • rsl
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by hellfire508
                    You're making it out as if i'm a fool. I'm just saying what Morales said. He said he struggled to make weight. For **** sake. Pacquiao fans take offense to every little thing that MAY take something away from their man. I clearly admitted Pacquiao won the fight fair and square, and he was the PRIMARY cause in Morales losing his legs with his massive body punishment, in addition to his amazing power punch to display to the head.

                    And also - weight drained fighters can be mobile early, they often slow dramatically as the fight progresses. Maybe in a few cases they are walking corpses, but generally - they look decent early, and slow later. And again, I am NOT taking anything away from Manny - nor am I implying this is FACT, I'm just repeating what Morales said post-fight. Is that a crime?
                    You keep talkin' about what he said post-fight what about what he said pre-fight about being in the best condition of his life or was your fighter LYING then. Anyway Morales was not weight drained whatsoever in fact I thought he looked pretty d*mn good considering I was actually at the fight! Saw "EL POLLO" in the flesh. He towered over Pac and even looked 10lbs. heavier than Pac

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                    • psychopath
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Hendrix
                      I think its a great idea cause it will also show how Pac does at that weight.
                      That's crazy friend, remember that Pacquaio came from 108 lbs division and only weight 127 1/2 lbs in their last fight. 135 is going to be too heavy for the guy, he has proven enough and 130 should be his limit.

                      Morales will beat him surely at 135.

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