Comments Thread For: Burns vs. Beltran Gets Controversial Ref Phil Edwards

[BIGPOPPAPUMP]

Raymundo Beltran’s chin is usually dependable. In the event that it fails him this weekend, he better make sure to not wait until the count of nine to rise to his feet, no matter the circumstance.

Officials have been named for this weekend’s lightweight title fight in Scotland, where Beltran travels to face local hero Ricky Burns. The referee for the scheduled 12-round main event will be Phil Edwards, largely inexperienced at the top level and known in recent times for his performance in Dereck Chisora’s controversial knockout win over American challenger Malik Scott earlier this summer.

Edwards came under fire for his role in Chisora escaping with a knockout win over Scott in July. The ending sparked debate over a point in which a referee should end a fight once decided a fighter’s health isn’t necessarily at risk. [Click Here To Read More]

[zee187]

It was scotts fault waiting till 9 1/2 seconds to get up. It made him look like he didn't want to continue

[HeroBando]

It was scotts fault waiting till 9 1/2 seconds to get up. It made him look like he didn't want to continue

Yeah kinda, but it wasn't all his fault. The ref was clearly trigger happy. Even saying he wouldn't be ready to go at the count of 10 is disingenuous. First off, he never reached 10 to be sure. Second, he wasn't hurt badly at all and was ready to fight even in the process of getting up. Basically he's safe with any ref not determined to count him out.

[anonymous2.0]

Unwritten rule? I'm pretty sure boxingscene posted the actual ruling word for word shortly after the fight...

[PACnPBFsuck]

My boy Phil about to phkkk up another fight, I swear him and Terry must laugh their asses of in the dressing room to see who's gonna phkk up the fight worse.

[omyblaze57]

Unwritten rule when the count is on 9 the fight is over? That's BS! There shouldn't be an unwritten rule above the rule itself! That's why the count ends at 10 and not 9. If the ones that invented the rule wanted to be a 9 count, it would've been 9 and not 10. It's like Segio Martinez and Chavez going into the 12th round, and the referee stopping the fight seconds before Martinez got clipped, with the reason of the stoppage being that Martinez was way ahead on the scorecards and Chavez didn't have any chances of winning the fight. Actually, he didn't win, but he had a real opportunity of KOing Martinez...

[voneric]

I got 5 million on Beltran if there is any takers. Yes its true that Beltran is already down 2 points on the scorecards and will need a KO to win but I am sticking with the Mexican. The question is, is there any Ricky Burns groupies out there willing to take the challenge?

[Weebler I]

I got 5 million on Beltran if there is any takers. Yes its true that Beltran is already down 2 points on the scorecards and will need a KO to win but I am sticking with the Mexican. The question is, is there any Ricky Burns groupies out there willing to take the challenge?

I would've (genuinely), but not now I know Beltran had Memo Heredia in his camp.

[JakeNDaBox]

Unwritten rule? I'm pretty sure boxingscene posted the actual ruling word for word shortly after the fight...

Incorrect. In Terence's article on the subject, it clearly states that "eight, nine and out" is a commonly practiced THEORY in UK fights, and acknowledged by the BBBofC, but not an actual written rule that a referee won't count to 10.

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&opt=printable&id=67928

When it comes to knockdowns, the BBBoC’s rules state that: ‘In this Regulation 3.32, “down” shall mean one or more of the following:- (a) when a Boxer falls from the boxing ring beyond the ring apron as a result of a legitimate blow; or (b) when a Boxer is on one foot or both feet and at the same time any other part of his body is touching the floor of the boxing ring; or (c) when a Boxer is supported on the ropes of the boxing ring and, in the opinion of the Referee, is unable to defend himself; or (d) when a Boxer is in the act of rising and in all of the above cases, a Boxer shall be considered to be down until he has regained his feet within the boxing ring and is in a position and a condition to defend himself’.

Boxers, trainers, managers and promoters over here abide by the theory of “Nine and out”, namely that if you’re in the act of rising at nine the referee will wave the fight off in most cases. Scott, in leaving it so late, left himself wide open to the possibility of being counted out in the act of rising, inexperience, naivety or a plain old lack of concentration cost him dearly, but that’s no reason to blame the referee for what is a failing on the part of the fighter, who had performed well in the early going and showed a lot of skill and ability in this his biggest test to date.

[daggum]

i got phil edwards by ko. if he can ko a heavyweight he can surely ko a lightweight.