POLL: Morrison vs. Klitschko

[beez721]

If he was hurt why would he get right up and not be wobbly after each knock down? Don't chinny fighters stay down aka, knocked out?

You didn't watch it apparently. Anyways, you're not the person who belongs in this thread. Give an opinion on the subject.

GTFOH

See ya.

morrison was clearly in lala land against bentt. that said...I think morrison beats bentt 9 out of 10 times. he hurt bentt so easilly but just got careless trying to finish him off and got caught walking in

[Larry the boss]

Lets not overrate Tommy just because he is dead,he would get his ass whopped

[tennesseeboy]

You're an imbecile when it comes to boxing, this has already been proven. The only thing the poll speaks volumes of is sentiment for the recently deceased. Morrison could have been an ATG had he a chin, stamina and defense. But the fact is he didn't and his career was much more up and down than pre Manny Wlad. Every heavyweight has a punchers chance. But when you analytically look at it Wlad's jab will be the deciding factor. If you think you can make an argument against this than please do. My guess is you will avoid my post again knowing I'm right.

I agree with you that Tommy could've been an all time great if he had of had chin and stamina. He had all the tools in the world to be a HOF'er but those things, and unfortunately those things are two of the biggest things to being very good. He had all the God gifted talent in the world, just never could put it all together. Another thing about Tommy that would've made him a lot better then what he was was how he lived and his reckless lifestyle. If he had of taken care of himself more outside of the ring i feel he would've been a lot better, but he didn't. So, for that and to be as good as he was is a testament to the natural talent he had.

[GoldenGloveLove]

I agree Tommy's hugely dangerous against pre-Steward Wlad. But it could've just as easily been Wlad's night as Tommy's then. Way less dangerous against current Wlad. Still dangerous though. Wlad's defense was still better before Steward. You can't get accurate results though on a poll like this right after a guy dies probably.

[AztecWanker]

There seems to be too much emphasis being placed on a trainer here. Last I checked, Wlad got chin checked by Peter, Williamson and Brewster all while being trained by Steward. Emmanuel didn't improve Wlads defense, all he did was teach him to hold on for dear life and protect his weak chin and lack of heart.

Morrison was a dog. He knew how to bob and weave his way inside and hit like a truck. Wlad has a chance because he's strong, but Morrison was much more explosive and knew how to bust up weak chinned fighters like Wlad. Brewster was slower, fatter and nowhere near as good as Morrison and he kicked the **** out of Wlad.

Steward can't get in there and fight for him, so this is a dumb premise to hinge so much on.

Prime for prime its a 50/50 fight. Morrison's best chances are in the first five rounds, if Wlad survives that, then maybe he wins. But lets not pretend Wlad is better than he is or that Emmanuel Steward did anything but teach him how to fight safe. Wlad's opponents have been a joke anyway and he still goes 12 dull rounds with them. Tommy was a fast starter with a killer instinct. Very possible he sparks Wlad like Sanders did.

[Boxing Goat]

morrisons stamina was the worst part of his game. he tended to get arm weary after just 3 or 4 rounds

He was always going for the kill. That's what fans wanted. He was a lot like Tyson, but to me, he had better stamina and didn't have a poor chin.

[Boxing Goat]

morrison was clearly in lala land against bentt. that said...I think morrison beats bentt 9 out of 10 times. he hurt bentt so easilly but just got careless trying to finish him off and got caught walking in

He was buzzed enough to go down but the fight ended with him getting up. He wasn't hurt enough to have stopped him without the 3 kd rule.

[Boxing Goat]

Lets not overrate Tommy just because he is dead,he would get his ass whopped

Maybe, but wasn't Tommy a better fighter than Brewster? He managed to beat a less disciplined Wlad.

[Boxing Goat]

I agree Tommy's hugely dangerous against pre-Steward Wlad. But it could've just as easily been Wlad's night as Tommy's then. Way less dangerous against current Wlad. Still dangerous though. Wlad's defense was still better before Steward. You can't get accurate results though on a poll like this right after a guy dies probably.

This is my point, there are those who think Tommy had the tools to give pre-Steward Wlad real problems.

The timing of the poll is what it is. Like I said, in a way it's a tribute thread to Tommy. He was a murderous puncher and could close the gap on another fighter very quickly.

To me, he was a threat. Is Wlad a better fighter now? Definitely.

Was he better before? Yes, but he was vulnerable.

[Boxing Goat]

There seems to be too much emphasis being placed on a trainer here. Last I checked, Wlad got chin checked by Peter, Williamson and Brewster all while being trained by Steward. Emmanuel didn't improve Wlads defense, all he did was teach him to hold on for dear life and protect his weak chin and lack of heart.

Morrison was a dog. He knew how to bob and weave his way inside and hit like a truck. Wlad has a chance because he's strong, but Morrison was much more explosive and knew how to bust up weak chinned fighters like Wlad. Brewster was slower, fatter and nowhere near as good as Morrison and he kicked the **** out of Wlad.

Steward can't get in there and fight for him, so this is a dumb premise to hinge so much on.

Prime for prime its a 50/50 fight. Morrison's best chances are in the first five rounds, if Wlad survives that, then maybe he wins. But lets not pretend Wlad is better than he is or that Emmanuel Steward did anything but teach him how to fight safe. Wlad's opponents have been a joke anyway and he still goes 12 dull rounds with them. Tommy was a fast starter with a killer instinct. Very possible he sparks Wlad like Sanders did.

You're off base here. Sure Tommy has a chance, which is my point, but only before Wlad really hit his stride. Todays version of Wlad would crush even the best Tommy I'm afraid. I have no problem admitting that. He's just too strong, too big, too skilled and too damn smart to get beaten by a good small heavyweight like Morrision was.

Now, whether it was the losses that wisened Wlad up or the trainer, it doesn't matter. There's no arguing the FACT that he's been perfect every since Brewster (Stewards 1st fight with Wlad) and has faced good top ten opposition most of the time since.