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  • PAC-BOY
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    #41
    Originally posted by J The UnBiased
    The link you gave me is an article that is based off of a rumor. The opening sentence tells you that. Are we going to work with facts or are we going to go off a rumor that makes a guy you dislike look bad. There's a rumor that Manny is dead broke, I'm not a Manny fanboy and I think the rumor is BS. But I understand how your kind works young fella.
    So Dan Rafael tweets rumors. A known reporter.... but being you dont believe it ...it has to NOT be true! But when a wide spread industry rumors it...meaning LEAKS IT OUT...it cant be true...To you! Keep up with the news and if you were more involved you may be singing a different tune.

    Stephen Espinoza, the general manager of Showtime Sports, is fully backing the statements made on Thursday by Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer - by confirmed that Showtime's Floyd Mayweather vs. Robert Guerrero pay-per-view event will exceed a million buys. Last Saturday night, Mayweather won a twelve round decision over Guerrero at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. Earlier this year, Mayweather signed an exclusive six-fight contract with Showtime, and the fight with Guerrero was his first pay-per-view event not carried by network rival HBO. By Tuesday, there were widespread industry rumors that Mayweather-Guerrero was a pay-per-view failure and the buyrate was going fall between 800 to 900,000 buys. As Schaefer indicated to BoxingScne.com on Thursday, there is no possible way that anybody could have predicted the pay-per-view numbers by Tuesday, because most of the preliminary figures are not received until Thursday and Friday of post-fight week.

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    • Imatroll
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      #42
      Originally posted by chepboxingking
      I'm sorry, please remind me what makes canelo that much better than guerrero? Ooh is it because he's undefeated vs a bunch of bums in mexico? He's hardest fight to date was trout and he barely got passed him. Idk why people are hyping this dude up soo much more. He's goodlooking, young and he's mexican so he's a promotional tool. No way this is as close as the cotto fight.
      Canelo proved himself vs. Trout.

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      • Nomadic
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        #43
        Originally posted by chepboxingking
        I'm sorry, please remind me what makes canelo that much better than guerrero? Ooh is it because he's undefeated vs a bunch of bums in mexico? He's hardest fight to date was trout and he barely got passed him. Idk why people are hyping this dude up soo much more. He's goodlooking, young and he's mexican so he's a promotional tool. No way this is as close as the cotto fight.
        Matthew Hatton had him on his way to sleep....not Ricky! Matthew.

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        • J The UnBiased
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          #44
          Originally posted by Imatroll
          Confident men don't ask for catch weights. Fighters that are sure of themselves would want their opponents to be comfortable.

          I would go as far as saying Floyd attempted to dodge the Canelo fight by asking for a catchweight. Team Mayweather probably thought Canelo wouldn't go below 154lb (there was an interview where team Canelo stated they wouldn't fight below 154lb) and got cornered.

          At least that's my theory
          Catchweights are weak as hell, but smaller men do ask for them.

          Now, about Floyd's diabolical plan of getting Canelo to leave the fight on the table by requesting the catchweight. When he saw that Canelo had no problem with the catchweight. Why didn't Floyd come up with another "roadblock"? Why did he still sign the contract against the all time great Canelo? Why did Floyd not duck this fight? You said that he did not want the fight, so why is he not ducking Canelo? Answer please.

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          • Nomadic
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            #45
            Originally posted by Imatroll
            Canelo proved himself vs. Trout.
            Yea he did, that a light puncher can give him hell.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Starz20
              Agree... and even though he is going with Canelo and expects him to win I respect his opinion! He is unbiased and gives his reasons why with no excuses.

              But other posters on here are pathetic like "nuthuggery" and "twosweetpacboy" and "mathed" aka "buster" All they do is complain and talk greasy but when the fight is over be the first ones crying.

              But will troll the hell out of the place before the fight! And making excuses after the fight.
              Don't be crying to us, this is NSB man....you either survive or you get mowed over. Guerrero was too slow, he isn't a garbage fighter, he just lost to Floyd. I do have a list of excuses in case Floyd wins though, I make one up before every Floyd fight....I mean, you got to have them ready to cover your pre-fight trolling right?

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              • J The UnBiased
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                #47
                Originally posted by PAC-BOY
                So Dan Rafael tweets rumors. A known reporter.... but being you dont believe it ...it has to NOT be true! But when a wide spread industry rumors it...meaning LEAKS IT OUT...it cant be true...To you! Keep up with the news and if you were more involved you may be singing a different tune.

                http://www.boxingscene.com/showtime-...success--65383
                Young man, I never said that this rumor might not be true. I simply said that it was in fact, a rumor. When you can prove something, it no longer is a rumor, it is then a fact. Of course this is common knowledge but I've learned in this conversation with you that knowledge really isn't that common if one cannot simply comprehend the difference between a fact and a rumor. Can you prove that rumor is true? Can you prove that rumor is not true? The answer is no, that is why it is a rumor.

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                • chepboxingking
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Nomadic
                  Matthew Hatton had him on his way to sleep....not Ricky! Matthew.
                  Lol, ohh yeah, how can I forget about Mathew "known as Ricky's bro more than he is as a boxer" Hatton. Its crazy how this dude built his name of fighting bums n having freckles.

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                  • Imatroll
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by J The UnBiased
                    Catchweights are weak as hell, but smaller men do ask for them.

                    Now, about Floyd's diabolical plan of getting Canelo to leave the fight on the table by requesting the catchweight. When he saw that Canelo had no problem with the catchweight. Why didn't Floyd come up with another "roadblock"? Why did he still sign the contract against the all time great Canelo? Why did Floyd not duck this fight? You said that he did not want the fight, so why is he not ducking Canelo? Answer please.
                    Floyd had no other road blocks to put up. The 152lb catchweight is a win/win for Floyd. Canelo either says no and the fight doesn't happen -or- he possibly becomes drained fight night, in Floyd's eyes.

                    I personally don't think 152lb catch-weight will effect Canelo. He will easily make it and rehydrate back up.

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                    • J The UnBiased
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Imatroll
                      Canelo proved himself vs. Trout.
                      Canelo's 1st fight at the elite level and I scored it a draw, 114-114. However, I do not think it was a robbery. If some feel that Canelo won, I have no problem with it. But it was definitely a close fight that could have went either way. The only thing Canelo proved is that he can't clearly beat elite opposition.

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