is 30 the new "prime" in boxing

[The Tase]

I disagree Sam. The body is going to start declining during this time frame no matter what. I'd have to go back and find them or research it again, but I've posted several links here and at ESB about this. Fighters are not able to fight longer in years today because they're evolving but simply because they fight far less often. I will say that better diets help keep many inactive fighters fit in comparison to years past when fighters fought more often. I also have very little doubt PED's are extending careers considerably.

i disagree jab.

i think advancement in peds, diet, nutrition, have changed the aging process for athletes especially boxers.

Just look at bernard, sergio, floyd, marquez, manny. Usually lower weight boxers are done by the time they are 30 but that's not the case anymore. Look at Rigondeaux. As time goes on, life expectancy has gone up and so has athletes prime.

Yet people have a problem with peds.

Its just ignorant and ****** to demonize peds. They help heal athletes and prolong their career.

[JAB5239]

Boxing is different than other sports though. Some fighters after a certain point in their career don't fight more than three times a year. That's why some can extend their primes.

If basketball, football, baseball and soccer players played only half as many games in a season there is no doubt many would be able to extend their careers as well getting by with craftiness and experience. This does not change the fact the human body starts a physical decline after 30 though my friend. Reactions slows, injuries become more frequent and are harder to get over etc., etc..

[JoeKidd]

Old men are now the better lovers...with the blue pill. And with the new "scientific" stuff to keep the body young, crafty old boxers could stick around forever.

[Someone88]

If basketball, football, baseball and soccer players played only half as many games in a season there is no doubt many would be able to extend their careers as well getting by with craftiness and experience. This does not change the fact the human body starts a physical decline after 30 though my friend. Reactions slows, injuries become more frequent and are harder to get over etc., etc..

I don't think the human body starts declining at 30 no matter what, there are other factors. If you mean at some point in the thirties then that makes more sense. For regular people who trains consistently and are healthy, I think they can maintain a good level of fitness for a lot longer than a person who doesn't.

[JAB5239]

i disagree jab.

i think advancement in peds, diet, nutrition, have changed the aging process for athletes especially boxers.

Just look at bernard, sergio, floyd, marquez, manny. Usually lower weight boxers are done by the time they are 30 but that's not the case anymore. Look at Rigondeaux. As time goes on, life expectancy has gone up and so has athletes prime.

Yet people have a problem with peds.

Its just ignorant and ****** to demonize peds. They help heal athletes and prolong their career.

The fighters you named are just a very small fraction of those fighting throughout the world though and every one of can or has had the PED question mark next to his name. My point is, give every fighter from every era the same level playing field and you will not see a difference in when a fighter is suddenly past prime...there would be a pretty close average in my opinion.

I do however agree with you PED quote. Im tired of it myself. There is no way to control it so just make it legal and regulate it.

[JAB5239]

I don't think the human body starts declining at 30 no matter what, there are other factors. If you mean at some point in the thirties then that makes more sense. For regular people who trains consistently and are healthy, I think they can maintain a good level of fitness for a lot longer than a person who doesn't.

Unfortunately I'm to tired to look it all up again but I've done the research and read what doctors and experts have said on the matter. Im neither on this topic so I'll just leave it at that.

By the way, cong**** on busting the 2000 post mark.

[Someone88]

Unfortunately I'm to tired to look it all up again but I've done the research and read what doctors and experts have said on the matter. Im neither on this topic so I'll just leave it at that.

By the way, cong**** on busting the 2000 post mark.

That's ok I've read different things. Lol oh I didn't notice thanks!

[The Tase]

The fighters you named are just a very small fraction of those fighting throughout the world though and every one of can or has had the PED question mark next to his name. My point is, give every fighter from every era the same level playing field and you will not see a difference in when a fighter is suddenly past prime...there would be a pretty close average in my opinion.

I do however agree with you PED quote. Im tired of it myself. There is no way to control it so just make it legal and regulate it.

but that's the whole point of this thread, 30 is NOW the new prime in boxing because of modern medicine and nutrition. Fighters back then dont have the training, nutritional, medicinal knowledge of this time period.

As for peds, if you actually legalize it, it would be safer and more effective because it would have to meet certain governmental guidelines in terms of quality, effectiveness, and safety.

The fact that its illegal and there is no safety oversight is what is hurting athletes. I means its all arbitrary anyway. Every sport's governing bodies allow peds that they deemed legal and ok to take and ban others without any real medical justification.

[JAB5239]

but that's the whole point of this thread, 30 is NOW the new prime in boxing because of modern medicine and nutrition. Fighters back then dont have the training, nutritional, medicinal knowledge of this time period.

I've never bought the who "modern" training thing. Fighters from past era's fought more often, more rounds and with inferior equipment. I'd say their training was as good as any today. I do concede nutritional and medical knowledge has improved though. And I still believe fighters are only fighting longer because they fight less often. All just my opinion though.

[The Tase]

I've never bought the who "modern" training thing. Fighters from past era's fought more often, more rounds and with inferior equipment. I'd say their training was as good as any today. I do concede nutritional and medical knowledge has improved though. And I still believe fighters are only fighting longer because they fight less often. All just my opinion though.

absolutely agree. that plays a huge part in preserving your prime. bigger purses less fights.